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Magnolia677: I wanted to discuss the edit you made and try to work that out, because the fact that Cherokee lived there but were removed and the land given out is an important part of how Ball Ground came to be. Your
edit summary says that “none of the sources mention Ball Ground” but I have to disagree. The
very first source in that section specifically mentions Ball Ground within the first sentence. The second source does not mention Ball Ground because the Cherokee were removed from the whole county; there's no reason to single out the area of Ball Ground and while it's true that this part is not specifically unique to Ball Ground, it does apply to Ball Ground and more specifically provides context for the next part, which ‘’does’’ discuss Ball Ground, albeit not by name.
this source about the land lottery does not mention Ball Ground because it is impossible for it to do so; it is a contemporary source. If you’ll notice it does not mention ‘’any’’ city in what is now Cherokee County, because nothing existed or was named there at the time except for the carved out county names. However the general map on page 16 and the more detailed map on page 66 does describe the land that is now Ball Ground (it’s around grid marker 55). They don’t call it by name because it didn’t have a name, but the source does describe Ball Ground’s lands and how they were distributed via the land lottery, and that context is important for the history of the town. The
last source that was removed just verifies the treaty information to give context to the timetable. But there is a source in each of those paragraphs that mentions Ball Ground (or describes the land that will become Ball Ground) so it is cited and relevant to the article, and because of that I think it needs to be reinserted into the article, especially because it makes following sections that use sources that explicitly mention the Cherokee
returning to Ball Ground seem without context if the article doesn't mention that they were ever there or that they left. -
Aoidh (
talk) 23:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Aoidh: Thank you for writing. I missed the reference to "Ball Ground" in the first source because it was spelled differently. Please add back information about the
Battle of Taliwa and any other information specific to Ball Ground. My concern on this and many articles is that information added is too broad and not specific to the city, and would be more appropriate on an article about the county. Thank you.
Magnolia677 (
talk) 07:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks for getting back with me. I'm assuming you have no objection to the second paragraph that discusses the land lottery since the source does describe Ball Ground without actually using the words "Ball Ground", so based on that assumption I'm going to re-add both paragraphs, but I'll tweak them a bit and add the source that mentions how the Cherokee later returned to Ball Ground as verification that they were there to leave in the first place, if that makes sense. -
Aoidh (
talk) 08:27, 23 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for
GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs)
Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.
three times its 2000 population of 730. three time the population in 2000 - 730.Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done I did reword it slightly -
Aoidh (
talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
General
Before incorporation as a town is a pretty poor heading title. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done I browsed other city GAs and borrowed the heading "Early history and settlement" from
Everett, Washington. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The current thing I linked before happens multiple times in the article. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done I read through the article again and I believe I addressed all of those instances. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Originally the name Ball Ground referred to the area around what is now the city and was not the name for any town or community.[11] The area around what is now the city was named Ball Ground by the settlers - very wordy for The name "Ball Ground" was named by settlers for an area of land, not for the town or community. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done I reworded your suggestion slightly. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A lot of the time you start sentences with "in X year". These need a comma afterwards and also should watch out for
WP:PROSELINELee Vilenski(
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contribs) 19:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done I tried to change the wording up as best as I could and added the commas. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Only need to link items the first use. There's a few duplinks about. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done Changed section header to "Revitalization". -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A television documentary - this probably needs to say whom from. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done Added "on North Georgia's Channel 11" I can't wikilink a specific channel because whatever Channel 11 referred to in 1971 apparently no longer exists and
Channel 11 branded TV stations in the United States is similarly blank for Atlanta/North Georgia. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
A lot of demographics is uncited. At least a source at the end of the paragraph is needed. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
median income for a household in the city was $81,900, and the median income for a family was $92,690. - maybe it's just cause I'm a maths geek, but a median isn't always the best measure of an average. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: For better or worse, median is the only average provided by the Census data for these; see the recently promoted
Everett, Washington for example. Median is used because it's what the census data provides. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Demographics has a graph of previous census results, but the prose doesn't mention them at all. Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done It was originally in the (now renamed) Decline and growth section but I moved it to demographics. Rather than just listing each decade in prose I tried to touch on the more relevant dates in a manner similar to other city GAs. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
opened in 2017.[citation needed] - can we fix this tag? Lee Vilenski(
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contribs) 20:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Done That was a leftover from before the article was expanded and was superseded by the sentence that followed it; I forgot to remove that sentence. -
Aoidh (
talk) 21:31, 10 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Lee Vilenski: Thank you for reviewing this. With the exception of the median data provided by the US Census, I have addressed all of the issues above. Please let me know if anything else is needed. -
Aoidh (
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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Aoidh: Great article. Though for hook one i'd propose ... that Ball Ground, Georgia was named what it is because the land was originally used by Native Americans to play
stickball? or something like that because just saying "was named" seems like a grammar mistake. I'm not too sure though so i'm waiting on your approval.
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 22:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply
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Onegreatjoke: I was trying to figure out how best to word that so I'm more than open to suggestions. What about ..."that Ball Ground, Georgia was so named because the land..."? -
Aoidh (
talk) 22:49, 12 October 2022 (UTC)reply