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This page seems to steal text directly from http://www.jref.com/culture/edo_period_era.shtml without any credit 138.130.247.141 13:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Rhys
He says they took it from Wikipedia, which seems evident from the other pages on the site.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:PHG&oldid=62283334
Removing copyvio tag. Ashibaka tock 00:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
April 25, 2006, Abe Masahiro in "End of seclusion" section was replaced by an entirely spurious name "Ouesuke Tenchigo Sargia" in "The chairman of the senior councillors, Abe Masahiro". The name "Ouesuke Tenchigo Sargia" seems to be invented. The vandal's IP is traced to a school at Scott Air Force Base -- Tiphareth 11:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
August 11, 2009, I discovered some more vandalism of this article, and did my best to remove it. I don't know how to track the culprit this time. If you are reading this and know more than I do, (quite likely) please tidy up after me. DerekVF ( talk) 04:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Late Tokugawa shogunate → Bakumatsu period
Might I suggest that we move this to Bakumatsu or Bakumatsu period, as those are the most common and most accurate names for the period? Whereas "bakumatsu" is a fairly commonly used term, and is generally applied to a fairly fixed period (c. 1853-1868), "late" Tokugawa shogunate is awfully vague, and isn't necessarily a synonym for bakumatsu. I see "late Tokugawa shogunate" and I think it could mean 1800-1868, as so much of the important events and developments of the Edo period had already passed by then; or it could mean 1750-1868, simply because it's the latter half, roughly, as compared to the 150 years preceding. Or, it could even mean 1700 onwards, since the period of 1600-1700 was one of great growth and development in a wide range of economic, political, social, and cultural ways, and sometime around 1700 all of these developments reached a climax in their acceleration, and slowed down dramatically or even reversed course.
Basically all I'm trying to say is that this article is obviously about the bakumatsu (幕末, lit. "end of the shogunate", not "late shogunate") period, so why don't we call a duck a duck? LordAmeth ( talk) 14:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Apparently I am late in responding. I agree that the previous title was too vague and had misinterpreted on several occasions in the past. In that regard, this is an improvement. However, "Bakumatsu period" now sounds like another period (時代) on par with Nara, Heian, Kamakura etc. That is not the case. Thus, I think that plain old Bakumatsu may be best. Bendono ( talk) 10:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Is it in the same league as the Azuchi-Momoyama period? Fg2 ( talk) 00:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
So... are people agreeing that it would be best to move the article to Bakumatsu? - GTBacchus( talk) 21:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I think translating "bakumatsu" as "end of the curtain" is misleading. It is not the end of the curtain, in the sense of a curtain coming down at the end of a show. Rather, "baku" comes from "bakufu", which was originally meant to signify the house of the Shogun, and later the shogunate military government itself. "Baku" means curtain in the sense of a curtain signifying the house of the Shogun, not a curtain on a stage. So "bakumatsu" really means "end of military government". Readers who do not know Japanese are likely to read the article as currently written, and mistakenly think that bakumatsu means a curtain coming down on the end of the Tokugawa Shogunate, which is not the correct interpretation of the Japanese phrase. -- Westwind273 ( talk) 22:38, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
As mentioned by the side of Note 1, beyond the Shogunate and the 'imperial rebels', who where the other factions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.1.152 ( talk) 06:01, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I understood this period to have been called "Keio". Was this later? Kortoso ( talk) 23:03, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
The lowest left-hand photo overlays the text and needs fixing. Davidships ( talk) 11:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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