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I'm not convinced that Buccaneers were stationed at Arbroath during the base's time as an RNAS: I haven't found any corroborating information and the runways don't look appear long enough to have been used by jet aircraft of this type. Anyone know any more? 66.134.170.155 ( talk) 13:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Completely overhauled, with added local knowledge as a native Arbroathian : )
-- Air 15:33, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Great Job! I've been avoiding it for three years, so I'm glad that you've risen to the challenge. Thank you. -- Derek Ross | Talk 00:37, 2004 Oct 20 (UTC)
An inhabitant of Arbroath is called a "Red Lichtie". I am fairly sure that this is a reference to the Bell Rock light which flashed alternately red and white for many years. Can anyone confirm this ? -- Derek Ross | Talk 08:15, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)
Arbroaths best website & forum is currently running with 388 members and the more the merrier , topics range from the present , past , local issues , photo gallery , theatre information , so welcome in !!
I have several copyedits to bring this article in line with the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, some of which I had made previously, but had been reverted. Here is why I have made some of the them:
I trust that these edits that are consistent with the Manual of Style will not be blindly reverted. Ground Zero | t 13:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
This section says arbroath only has one team, maybe this should be changed to say one professional/part time team, or whatever there current position is, aswell as say there are many smaller teams like arbroath vics, the article is a bit murky.
Also, maybe a link to the aberdeen bon accord page, and let people know they were originally a cricket team, this would put things into context
Alan200305 10:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Orderinchaos78 03:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
It's possible to add a great deal on the local history of the areas in the map. In fact Arbroath public library has a couple of books published in the late 19th/early 20th century by the long-since gone Arbroath Guide which give more details than most people want to know. These are still part of the general lending stock and could certainly be used to bulk up he article. More recently a book was published by the local publisher (the Herald Press) on Street Names in Arbroath which gave dates and origins for most of the streets in the town and could likewise be used as a source book for the article.
As for the 1838 rail link, it's still alive and kicking, forming an indispensable part of the modern mainline east coast route linking Aberdeen to Edinburgh. Rumours of its demise are very much exaggerated. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I notice this article has been through PR and FAC. This article looks ready (or near ready) for GA status. Has anybody considered taking this forwards? The WP:UKTOWNS guideline may point out where there are gaps in material first though. -- Jza84 · ( talk) 01:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
As it stands, the article is a little poor.
Arbroath, like nearby Dundee, was first settled 3500 years ago by the Picts, and was known by the name Aberbrothock, a reference to the Brothock Burn which runs through the town.
There is nearby archaeology that takes settlement of the area back a further 2,000 years. We don't know what it was called in 1500 BC, but whoever lived there at the time were not known as Picts. Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 14:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I've made a start on it, and will add detail bit by bit to flesh it out. It could do with some photos to illustrate the early history. The St Vigeans stones might be a good start, particularly the Drosten Stone. Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 11:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I've removed that section as it was sticking out like a sore thumb. It could be argued that some of the information in it could be incorporated into a section about Arbroath's economy, but it doesn't merit its own section. Here's the material I removed:
The High street of Arbroath has many good stores and also a shopping centree (Abbey Gate Shopping centre) the high street has stores such as Woolworths , Argos, Nickel N Dime( also selling furniture), M & Co, W H Smith, Sphere and Turret and Burtons
Any objections? Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 10:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be worthwhile to work this article up to GA status. It's a fair way off that at the moment, but most of the issues are ones of style rather than content.
I'm going to make some changes to bring the article in line with general wikipedia guidelines:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_settlements#Infobox.2A Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 10:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
This section needs cleaning up, as the references do not support a number of statements made. For instance, the assertion that 2.14% of the population are migrant workers cites the 2001 census, which only states that 2.14% of the population were born outside of the UK. Also the 4% unemployment figure cites a page that states Arbroath has 2.7% unemployment. Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 16:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I think that most people with any interest in placenames know that "aber" means "at the mouth of". However not many people seems to know what "brothock" means. Sure, it's the name of the burn but what does it mean? Well, from what I've been able to discover "Brothock" seems to come from the Gaelic "Brothaig", meaning "muddy" or "ditch". So it looks like the name means "At the mouth of the muddy stream". Wonder where we might get a reference ? -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:41, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
This site looks interesting. I particularly like its links to its sources. -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
This section probably needs cleaned up. Notable residents need to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) for inclusion in such lists.
For example, a relationship to a notable person does not make them notable, unless there is significant coverage in reliable secondary sources on that relation. While Liza Minnelli is certainly notable, her great great grandfather is not notable. Inclusion in a published genealogy does not qualify as significant coverage.
I'm going to delete Charles Milne, as well as Jamieson Douglas Fletcher, as his notability has not been asserted. I'm also going to delete Gary Macdonald... I'm sure he's a fine musician, but as the only reference I can find to him is a Bebo page (which may or may not be his), I suspect he is not notable in any way. Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 10:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The reference to Bernard, Bishop of Arbroath, in this section, adds to the confusion over his identity by stating that Bernard of Kilwinning and Bernard de Linton were one and the same person. The Wikipedia articles on the two refute this, as does the Oxford DNB. I've seen both men given credit for the Declaration of Arbroath. It's time this was discussed properly.-- Mabzilla ( talk) 10:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I've nominated Arbroath for GA review. It can't be too far off right now... I imagine there will be a few improvements suggested by reviewers. Catfish Jim and the soapdish ( talk) 14:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Designated ARBROTH on the 1654 Blaeu map of Fife.
excimer1@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.11.30.169 ( talk) 22:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
By this, of course, I mean a reference to the Abbot of Aberbrothok in Inchcape Rock, once a very well known poem. Old_Wombat ( talk) 12:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Should I add a climate section, with a weather box? Asking so I don't mess up Arbroaths GA status. ---- Bruvtakesover ( talk!) 18:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)