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The definition of the South included under the subsection for Southern food conforms to neither the Census Bureau's definition nor the (much narrower) commonly accepted definition (at least among Southerners).
Delaware is Southern as per the Census Bureau, but mostly revolves around Philadelphia, culturally speaking, and is not really considered to be Southern by most Southerners -- especially with regards to its decidedly Pennsylvanian food (excellent gas station fried chicken notwithstanding). The subsection in question does not include Delaware as part of its definition of the South, and I'd suggest leaving it that way, despite the Census Bureau's classification.
Washington DC is considered Southern by the Census Bureau and this article, but not most Southerners. However, its cuisine is very heavily influenced by the South, mostly due to the city's large African-American population. I think that, since this article pertains to food, it is appropriate to maintain the current classification.
Where things get iffy is Texas. Although the state is considered Southern by the Census Bureau, I think most people (and certainly most Texans) would agree that the state is both large and unique enough that it constitutes its own geographical niche. The article says that Houston is the largest city in the South, which while true under the official definition, is neither commonly accepted nor relevant to the subject of this article. The article also makes a delineation between East and West Texas with regards to the state's southerness, which I think is valid. I suggest maintaining the delineation between East and West Texas but deleting the reference to Houston.
Maryland is considered Southern by the Census Bureau, but not by most people. The article makes a distinction between northern and southern Maryland, with the latter being more Southern as per the article. I suggest doing away with the subdivision of Maryland and considering the entire state part of Mid-Atlantic. While far-southern Maryland remains culturally linked to the tidewaters, the population centers of Montgomery and Prince George's Counties feel much more Northern, which is reflected in the food from those places.
Maxbillick ( talk) 06:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)maxbillick
This article is simply too long. On my screen, it takes 25 pages, of which the "Regional cuisine" section alone takes 11 pages. At least the "Regional cuisine" section should be further subdivided into region-specific articles. JIP | Talk 14:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Overall, I'd say this is one of the most poorly written articles I've seen on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.214.17.120 ( talk) 18:46, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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The use of an American flag as a tablecloth is problematic, notwithstanding the image is furnished by USDA. ☆ Bri ( talk) 15:54, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
It appears that the pop-up preview for this article along with a number of other articles, mostly pertaining to food and/or pertaining to the United States of America or Canada possibly also Korea and Italy seem to have been vandalized with one specific image of what appears to be a fly on feces. I have no idea how those are edited and I have had no luck searching for how to do so. These are the instances I have found from looking at previews of pages that link to the pages for American cuisine and Canadian cuisine look at the first two pages of 500 instances for the American cuisine article and the first 500 instances for the Canadian cuisine article and they show that this problem has a surprisingly-large scale.
A list of the pages I have found thus far that have been vandalized in this manner:
Neapolitan cuisine, Lunch, Music of the United States, List of cuisines, Roman cuisine, Cinema of the United States, Cajun cuisine, Soul food, Technological and industrial history of the United States, Canadian cuisine, Chuckwagon, Cuisine of the Pennsylvania Dutch, Cuisine of the Southwestern United States, List of reptiles of Canada, Cinema of Canada, Cuisine of New England, Greek Canadians, Oath of Citizenship (Canada), Cuisine of Philadelphia, New American cuisine, Cuisine of North Dakota, Culture of Dallas, Lists of populated places in the United States, List of foods of the Southern United States, Cuisine of New Jersey, Tlingit cuisine, Cuisine of Omaha, List of Korean Dishes, Culinary Revolution, Cuisine of the Thirteen Colonies, Indian ice cream (Canada), Barbecue in the United States, Cuisine of the Western United States, South Korean cuisine, List of soul foods and dishes, Venetian cuisine, Barbecue in Texas, and Timeline of United States inventions (1946-1991)
I would have worked on fixing this vandalism myself, but I have no idea how to edit an article's preview pop-up and can't find any resources for learning how to do so. Also, the apparent scale of the problem is systemic and, as such, I feel that I must call attention to the problem so that people with more technical know-how than me can try resolve the problem. YIMBYzus ( talk) 07:10, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
In at least a couple of places one encounters some rather old cliches regarding two of the earliest ethnic groups in the US (I'm sure there are others, but I don't have the background to identify them).
There are other issues here but this is already very long and so I'll await some responses. Overall the prose in this section is not very encyclopedic and seems like it was written by a small child for a school assignment. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 23:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
I have reverted recent content reduction in the lead as there doesn't seem to be sufficient rationale for its removal. That can be discussed here. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 19:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Max2284, you are saying the summary content you removed belongs in the History section. Can you explain why this is necessary? Just saying that you think it has to be removed or placed somewhere else is insufficient and the multiple removals are disruptive. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 19:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 January 2024 and 3 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): K Wilson12 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Cmood4 ( talk) 20:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)