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Talk:African Americans/summary.
Black American over African American
I have been reading that "Black American" is taking precedence as the newest, best preferred term over "African American." Is either acceptable in most articles right now?
Iljhgtn (
talk) 18:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Also, is it appropriate to capitalize the "B" in "Black Americans" or is it "black Americans"?
Iljhgtn (
talk) 20:51, 9 January 2024 (UTC)reply
It is correct to capitalize the B in Blacks, as in L for Latinos and A for Asians. However is its NOT correct to do the same for w in whites. Associated Press and New York Times have determined that "white doesn’t represent a shared culture and history in the way Black does." (Personally I see this as regressive in implying all Black cultures are similar, when in reality they are quite varied.) The underlying message however is that whites are the only racial group not befitting a capital letter.
We follow
MOS:RACECAPS. It's "Black and White" or "black and white".
Rsk6400 (
talk) 09:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The most recent move discussion happened last march (
link), and it ended in consensus against such a move. I'd recommend researching whether things have changed when it comes to RS usage of the terms.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 13:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
That was not a very thoroughly responded to RfC. Would be logical to have another.
Iljhgtn (
talk) 18:31, 21 January 2024 (UTC)reply
At the very least we can say that Black American should be prioritized over Afro-American right? Google searching "Afro Americans"/"Afro-Americans" gives 1.5 million results while "Black Americans" gives around 24.6 million. (Both are searched with quotation marks included)
Gabecube45 (
talk) 20:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Support for "Black American" as the recommended preferred usage instead of "Afro", "Afro-" or "African American". Black American is the best, most neutral, and widely used term.
Iljhgtn (
talk) 15:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Freee Contributor: First: Please read
WP:BRD and don't edit war. Then: Why should we call African Americans a "North American" group ?
Black Canadians and
Afro-Mexicans are not called "African Americans". Then: "North American ethnic group consisting of Americans" sound a bit funny, doesn't it ?
Rsk6400 (
talk) 12:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm not referring to Black Canadians or Afro-Mexicans. I'm referring to the African-Americans who've settled Canada for 2 centuries setting up towns and villages in Canada. Namely, the
Black Nova Scotians. If you see the
Afrikaners page, you can see they're called Southern Africans because they've lived in Namibia and Botswana for 2 centuries, even though the bulk of their history in Southern Africa has only been in South Africa.
Freee Contributor (
talk) 12:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
No, I think the lead sentence is less confusing as it is now.
Rsk6400 (
talk) 12:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
But African-Americans are a North American ethnic group.
Freee Contributor (
talk) 12:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
There are African Americans in many places. More than 99% are in the United States. It's fine to refer mainly to the vast majority, and mention the few exceptions in some lower-profile places.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 13:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
But there have been African-Americans in Canada for centuries. If you look at the Afrikaners page, you can see the vast majority live in South Africa but because they've also lived in Namibia and Botswana for 1-2 centuries, they're called Southern African.
Freee Contributor (
talk) 14:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
For how long have African Americans been living in Sierra Leone or Liberia ? According to
African Americans in France, their presences in France started in the 1800s.
Rsk6400 (
talk) 16:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes but the ethnic group in question came to be in North America
Freee Contributor (
talk) 17:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm not convinced by your arguments.
Rsk6400 (
talk) 18:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The fact remains that African-Americans are a North American ethnic group
Freee Contributor (
talk) 18:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)reply
You reverted my edit which placed the
Black American Heritage Flag in the lead infobox, saying that the flag is not universally accepted. Would you have any sources to back up your claim?
We need sources for claims, not for the absence of claims. That's why I think to add the flag, you'd need good sources that positively say that the Black American Heritage Flag is universally accepted as representing the group of African Americans. Tiktok videos or fashion articles are not considered reliable sources. You can find more about reliable sources at
WP:RS.
Rsk6400 (
talk) 08:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
African Americans, also known as Afro-Americans or Black Americans, are an
ethnic group consisting of Americans with partial or total ancestry from any of the
Black racial groups of Africa. African Americans constitute the third largest racial or ethnic group in the U.S. after
White Americans and
Hispanic and Latino Americans. Most African Americans are descendants of
enslaved people, having West African and coastal Central African ancestry, with varying amounts of Western European and Native American ancestry. This
ambrotype depicts African American
Union soldier Sgt. Samuel Smith, of the 119th
United States Colored Troops, with his family in
c. 1863–65.