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Plunder of Jewish Property in the Nazi-Occupied Areas of the Soviet Union
As in other occupied areas, Jewish property in the USSR was plundered. The plunder’s special character derived from the unusual economic conditions in the country, the nature of the personal property there, and the variety of interested German functionaries. Specially appointed bodies were designated to deal with expropriating Jewish property, but this was complicated by the conflicting interests of the various German – civilian and military – and local authorities, with each desiring the property and seeking to profit from it. The plunder was undertaken through a variety of means, such as expropriating homes, financial levies (“contributions”), collecting furniture, household wares, work tools and clothing, etc. The plundered money and/or property was meant generally for immediate local use and was sometimes sent to other authorities. At times, the local authorities got part of the property (usually apartments), and in other cases the German authorities rewarded collaborators with this property. Alongside the official plunder, for which there are estimates, there was also private plunder for personal use, plunder whose volume reached several hundred million Reichsmarks, if not billions.
I've heard that Brigadier General Yitzhak Arad held the post of IDF Chief Education Officer, but I've yet to corroborate this with some authoritative source. I can do the library research next week, but would appreciate if anyone can fill this in, particularly the dates, and any other pertinent details about his military career in Israel.
(NB: Missed my chance to ask him over lunch today, after hearing him speak on Operation Barbarossa. At least it motivated me to do a rewrite/expansion of this article :-) Deborahjay 01:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Is Arad a functionalist or an intentionalist01:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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I am extremely disturbed to see that an editor has inserted Lithuanian nationalist revisionist claims that this survivor of a genocide in a large part perpetrated by lithuanian collaborators has himself committed "genocide" against Lithuanians in his fight against the "resistance" (Lithuanian fascists). The Lithuanian government investigation of Arad as a war criminal (while it celebrates Nazi collaborators as national heroes) is a travesty of justice. [1] Duly deleted.-- Monochrome_ Monitor 21:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
The article has unfortunately been the target of some POV pushing recently, with the introduction of various unsourced personal opinions, extremist views (e.g. branding of all of mainstream modern Lithuania, Lithuanian government agencies, the media etc as "pro-Nazi", evil or whatever, with a strong pro-Soviet undercurrent, quite in the tradition of Putin's propaganda machinery) and soapboxing in the section on the war crimes investigation in Lithuania (e.g. material that is completely unrelated to the investigation that the section ostensibly discusses, or even to Arad himself, in addition to just being a form of POV about Lithuania as a country). These disruptive edits also made the section on the investigation ridiculously long and without a clear focus. They have now been cleaned up, and the section has been returned to a sensible and proportional length and limited to the discussion of the actual topic of the section (as described in the heading, i.e. the investigation). This is not the place to write about "all that is wrong with Lithuania in my opinion"; for that a blog would be a better option. -- Tataral ( talk) 03:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Also, for the record, (some of the worst) examples of POV include
"In the Soviet era Arad was honored in Lithuania as a war hero"
"However in post-Communist Lithuania anti-Nazi partisans, particularly Jewish ones, are portrayed as traitors"
"An openly anti-semitic newspaper"
"The state-sponsored Genocide Center takes a revisionist view of the Holocaust" etc etc etc etc
"According to Nazi hunter Ephraim Zuroff, "Not a single Lithuanian war criminal has sat one day—not one minute!—in a Lithuanian prison since independence"
-- Tataral ( talk) 03:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Here's an interesting source on the Lithuanian investigation: Amending the Past: Europe's Holocaust Commissions and the Right to History. I thus feel that mentioning the investigation in the lead is WP:UNDUE without proper context. K.e.coffman ( talk) 05:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
In this case, Valentukevicius’s tactics proved to be extremely damaging to Lithuania’s global image. Lithuania’s foreign affairs secretary, Oskaras Jusys, conceded as much in 2009, when he stated that the prosecutor’s office had let itself be pushed around by “outside” elements and that there had been no basis for an investigation of Arad. “Their mistake was to go ahead without clear evidence,” Jusys lamented. 31 He added that the case “created so much damage” for Lithuania, a reference to the statements of condemnation that poured in from the United States, the European Union, Israel, and the international Jewish community.
@ K.e.coffman:
K.e. wrote: "See talk". Please notice that I self-reverted after seeing Tataral's explanations, so I dont' quite understand your revert to actually an old version Tataral was objecting. Staszek Lem ( talk) 17:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
re: "burning civilians out of their homes" is in fact objectively a clear-cut case of a war crime - Obviously not that "clear-cut". When " forest brothers" were coming out at night and burning communists and kolkhoz chairmen out of their homes with their families and little babies, then it was OK, right? Because they were fighting with Communism, right? It is very easy to slap "crime" label today. There was lots of bad blood on both sides at these times. Please keep personal wikipedian's opinions out of articles. Stick to the facts and official statements. Staszek Lem ( talk) 17:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
The investigation section is too long ( WP:UNDUE), through the solution is not too shorten it but to expand the rest of the article. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Note that I didn't introduce the information about the Partisan Medal, First Degree, but merely moved it to the section about his early life. It was added by a clearly pro-Arad editor. I don't really feel very strongly about whether to include it or not, but I believe Wikipedia biographies in general tend to include decorations even if the decoration is relatively common. Arad also appears to appreciate this decoration and consider it important (from his own perspective). He mentions the medal and the importance it had for him in his autobiography, and it is mentioned in other sources, easily found on the Internet. -- Tataral ( talk) 00:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
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Please add to list of books published by Yithak Arad: It Happened On our Planet - Morality and Dilemmas of Survival among Jews during the Holcaust. 2020. ISBN-978-965-201-135-0 Moovit1 ( talk) 09:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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Please add this new york times obituary as a reference https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/15/obituaries/yitzhak-arad-dead.html Eitanb7 ( talk) 10:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC)