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Kreizberg has a new recording with Julia Fischer of the Tchaikovsky violin concerto which was very favorably reviewed in Fanfare March/April 2007.
The prior versions removed useful references as well as included text that was much too subjective and hagiographic in tone. The purpose of wikipedia is to present "just the facts" and not be a fan page. DJRafe ( talk) 16:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Piggy, you are not supposed to remove the content but flag it, so that people can provide the proper citations. -- kosboot ( talk) 03:56, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
This said he changed his name to avoid confusion with his brother Semyon. This says one of the brothers “has his mother's surname, but I can't remember which. Probably the one not married to a Labecque sister”. (Semyon Bychkov is married to Marielle Labècque.)
I get from these that they were both born Bychkov, and Yakov took his mother’s surname Kreizberg. But the sources are not great. Can this be confirmed in a better citation? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 18:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
On 11th March it was reported that Yakov Kreizberg is critically ill with only days to live keeps getting put back into the article. The last time I saw Mr. Kreizberg conducting a Julia Fischer concert some years ago he did look ill and in pain so it could be true he is even iller now. Where did you hear the news he is close to death? Radio, internet, friends colleges of him. I hope he is in the best of health or gets back to health. All the best to him! — Yulia Romero (formerly Mariah-Yulia) • Talk to me! 23:05, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
He has now died which has been posted correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.176.192 ( talk) 18:08, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Whilst I appreciate everyone's concerns for accuracy, the requests for his critical illness to be made known were at the request of family and colleagues none of whom wanted to be named. Anyway, it matters not now as his death has been made public. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.176.192 ( talk) 18:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Kosboot just let it lie now for God's sake. A very talented man has died very young and it has been reported correctly. Some things are more important than your bureaucratic rules and regulations and the obvious strict order you require in your life!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.37.193.217 ( talk) 20:06, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
I made various supported statements (with references so not "a joke") about Yakov's illness that were true and substantiated but they were removed. However, that was not my main point. Kosboot seemed not able to let the matter lie even when information had been posted on Yakov's death that was substantiated by his own agent! Obsession is a word which springs to mind. I note also that helpful additions that I made tonight with reference to Yakov's career even though they were substantiated by reference to a bona fide website, have been removed. I may be new to Wikopedia but it appears as this is far from the universal contributors' haven that I was led to believe. Instead it seems to be governed by an elite who have their own subjective interests! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.176.192 ( talk) 23:45, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
On Norman Lebrecht's site, he calls Kreizberg a half-brother of Semyon Bychkov. This is totally untrue. They were full brothers of the same parents. Both born Bychkov, but Yakov changed it to Kreizberg by around 1979 to avoid competition with his brother. -- kosboot ( talk) 18:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Although Kreizberg studied with Musin, he also studied for several years with his brother, Semyon Bychkov. That's never mentioned in press releases, so it probably can't be put in the article unless Bychkov eventually reveals this. -- kosboot ( talk) 18:47, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I know he was a naturalized American, although I've not yet found a source for that. Why does the article give his nationality as Austrian/American? -- kosboot ( talk) 20:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
His father, May Bychkov, was a doctor in the Soviet Union who published prolifically on the subject. [1]
Still trying to remember his mother's name! -- kosboot ( talk) 00:12, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
References
Before he emigrated in 1976, Yakov won a piano competition in which he played the first movement of the Tchaikovsky piano concerto with orchestra, which was telecast in the Soviet Union. Are there any Russian-speaking people who can look this up? -- kosboot ( talk) 03:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
There's no question he was Jewish - I'm just having a hard time finding documentation. I did find this profile with his brother Semyon asserting he (Semyon) was Jewish: Anne Midgette, "For a Russian Masterpiece, A Russian-Born Maestro" New York Times, Jan. 22, 2004.. Is that enough? -- kosboot ( talk) 14:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Also the article that cites him accompanying Mozart and Salieri - describes him immigrating in the wave of Jewish immigrants from the Soviet Union. -- kosboot ( talk) 14:35, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
According to NRC Handelsblad (I found this in the newspaper, not on its website) he died of a long disease. Should this be mentioned in this article? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:56, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Agree, hence I wanted to discus it on this talkpage first. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:21, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I've been including the occasional critic's review in the body of the article, but I think by next week I'll have enough material to create a separate section on "critical response" (need to see how other articles call it). So I'll remove all the ones I've inserted, leaving the body of the article to be strictly what he did and where, and then have all the critical responses in the new section.
I also hope I'll have enough quality reviews of recordings that I can have a separate section on recordings. (The reviews in American Record Guide are amateur reviews, generally not worth quoting/reading.)
Other than Toscanini and Bernstein, I think the Kreizberg article may be one of the larger ones on a conductor. :-) -- kosboot ( talk) 15:54, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I need to have some negative responses, but I've only found two so far (which is a good sign), both dealing with recordings where the reviewer was clearly having an off-day. Still looking. -- kosboot ( talk) 16:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
By next week or so, I'm hoping to be able to extract a list of the operas he conducted in Krefeld and especially at the Komische Oper. -- kosboot ( talk) 16:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the article is becoming long. But it can be safely said that there is no other published account of his life that is more thorough. -- kosboot ( talk) 15:41, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
The proper date for the Jason Dehart article from Tallahassee Magazine is July-August 2006. Unfortunately, the current format for references does not allow such hyphenated months with no number. It was necessary to choose one month, so I chose July. DJRafe ( talk) 07:37, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
For an extended explanation of my last edit, please refer to the bottom of this page, which covers a good portion of the (wholly justified) reasons for my edits, without having to duplicate the material here. DJRafe ( talk) 06:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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