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The Russian Wikipedia has little material on the Volga Finns that is worth translating. --
Ghirla-трёп- 14:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Russian sources are welcome, to combine to that information already in hands. But a lot is still missing and every piece of not yet published information in English Wikipedia is worth of transliteration to English. I have collected summary of the information which was published of Volga Finns up to 1939 from Finnish sources and some interesting details was found.
Besermanni or
Bessermanni speaking Udmurt language, but of race notable Mongol-Tatar appearence tribe in Viatka river district. Udmurt call them Busurma´nni.
Budin According to Herodotos describtion located to Udmurt.
Burtta originally presumably Vurtta. Most southern of Finno Ugrian tribes. Close contacts with Skyytta (Scythians). (In Russian Skif /Skith).
Kozla-Mari (larch or forrest Mari) is the self name for Meadow-Mari which are also called Forest-Mari. Sometime also called "Hard Mari".
Kuruk-Mari (Hill Mari) is selfname for Vuor (Mountain) Mari living south side of Volga. Sometime called also "Soft Mari".
Magyari the name the Hungarians use of themselves, but originally meaning only one of the seven Hungarian tribes, living nearest south of Handa-hui on the south side of Kama and Veher (Belaja) rivers. Moved to Bashkiria. Had connections to Mansi.
Otjani (
Otiny) name was used by the Russians for Udmurt, become later Votjani, then Votjak.
Ostjakki-Nenetsi great Netetsi tribe which lived in ancient times on upper source of Kama.
Perma name for Kama Culture. Other versions in different languages; Bermia, Bjarmia, Beorma, Permi, Permu, Perum. In early Novgorodian Annales in 1200s Perem, Perym. later Perma.
Permi combined name for Komi, Komi-Permjakki, and Udmurtti.
Hi everyone, I have recently expanded the section on Muromas, as it was quite limited, and I found a
youtube presentation that gives some interesting information about them, but I don't know if it fits to put a youtube video as a source. The video is a lecture by Estonian archaeologist and university professor
Ain Mäesalu, so it's not just a random person talking, but an expert in the field. However I don't see any source option like this. Do you think I can use it as "news"?
CriticKende (
talk) 09:38, 27 September 2023 (UTC)reply