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Is the description of his exploits a direct quote from the award citation? If so it should be referenced as such. Lisiate 00:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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MBlaze Lightning, I assume you're working on this with an eye to GA status, based on the level of detail currently in the article. A lot of work has clearly gone into it, and even if you weren't thinking of nominating it, I think it's not far. However, I wanted to flag two concerns; first, a heavy reliance on the book by his father, which is obviously not an intellectually independent source, no matter how careful he may have been in his research; and second, a tendency toward flowery language, that probably reflects that of the source material, but is a problem nonetheless. I've made some copy-edits, but I don't really have the time to go over the prose in more detail, so I wanted to bring these up here. Regards, Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
"Besides being brilliant at studies, Batra was a keen sportsman"is cited to four sources, three of which are his parents: this isn't appropriate. Vanamonde ( Talk) 14:39, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
The section ‘Military Career’ stated ‘The town of Dras, the second coldest inhabited place in the world after Siberia, where temperatures fall as low as –60 degrees Celsius in winter’ in one of its picture holders. There are many issues with the statement. The climate data for Drass states that the lowest temperature ever recorded was -45 degrees Celsius, nowhere near the mentioned 60 degrees. In addition there are colder inhabited places such as Utqiagvik with a record low of -49. The page for Drass also states ‘There is a popular claim as well various signs/boards showing Dras being second coldest inhabited place in the world. However, there is no reliable weather data to substantiate the claim.’
/info/en/?search=Utqiagvik,_Alaska — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:132F:D1ED:15D1:595E:70BE:129C ( talk)
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Hi Aman Kumar Goel,
According to you , "No source describes Vikram Batra by his caste contrary to your claim". I think original research on Wiki is not allowed
Sources :-
Samachar : https://www.newssamachar.com/shershaah-review-story-of-a-brave-son-of-a-middle-class-family/
The above sources have referenced Girdhari Lal Batra (Vikram's father) claiming to be from a "Punjabi Khatri family". I think 3-4 news sources are enough to claim the authenticity. It is important to represent his genealogy because it is often mistaken. Furthermore, in this particular interview GL Batra has himself claimed his family origin two times, at approximately 3 and 9 minutes. Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybfWrke9CE I agree that confining a national hero like Batra under a tag of caste might not be good but in this situation mentioning a person's family origin is important because it is commonly misinterpreted.
The above sources are okay under WP:RS. Also, WP:UNDUE says the following in its wiki article; "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." Here, you are trying to suppress a minority viewpoint by un-doing my sourced edits and hence breaking a crucial Wikipedia rule.
If you still have different views, please discuss further here. Thankyou. (PS : I am against casteism and is only interested in it out of educational view only)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamperdamper ( talk • contribs)
Hi Aman Kumar Goel, I have corrected the statement from "born in a Punjabi Khatri family" to "his parents are of Punjabi Khatri origin" since the source is not talking about Vikram Batra himself but the interviewees are pointing a similarity between them and Sidharth. The "Like us, Sidharth is a..." in the interview refers to the Batras. Moreover, Self-identification is only necessary for living people. For dead people, a reliable source that is taken from an authentic interview of a relative or an academic article written by a qualified scholar is enough. You are being very biased by suppressing a factual data. Lamperdamper ( talk) 07:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)