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The result was: promoted by
Desertarun (
talk) 11:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)reply
The article is new enough, long enough, refereced, neutral and no copyvio obvious. AGF sources in foreign language. The hook is referenced and interesting. QPQ done.
Corachow (
talk) 10:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)reply
GA Review
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Hello, I'll be reviewing this. On first reading, it appears well written and doesn't need much work. I usually review section by section and am not in a hurry. Hope this works for you. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 15:45, 19 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox
Resolved
Shinee seems to have a visual presence, but there are no images in the article. If there is no single cover, maybe add a promo photo that was used announcing the release or similar (here or later in the article).
added an image later in the "Promotion" section. Let me know if that works for you.
If much of the song is in Korean, maybe add |language=Korean or Korean, English (chorus) if appropriate.
added "Korean" under the language parameter in the infobox.
FYI only: |released= usually uses {{Start date}}; the 1st |length= doesn't need {{Duration}}; |chronology=,|header=, and |type= are already auto generated.
Jong-hyun penned the lyrics: Might help to identify him as the lead singer or at least as a band member. Also, if the lyricist is identified, the composer of the music should be as well.
introduced him
featuring a stripped-down instrumentation: I'm used to seeing this as featuring stripped-down instrumentation without the "a".
removed "a"
Commercially, the song reached: I'm not sure that "Commercially" adds anything (most readers would probably assume that Gaon is a commercial chart).
revised
going on an adventure with female fans: Maybe add a little more to this, since the video is the subject of an entire section.
Most of the first paragraph: This deals with the song's release, which comes after the songwriting and recording. As I mentioned in the "Mic Drop" PR, I prefer a more chronological layout. Consider moving to later in the article (up to you).
moved it later.
produced by LDN Noise ...: Maybe just a little more on who these people are and how they are related to the group. Also I don't see that the songwriting or production is mentioned in the ref.
introduced the team and added the supporting ref.
The song has a length of ...: It looks like Musicstax is a self-published source. Does Luke meet
WP:SPS, i.e., a recognized expert, etc.?
I've used it for other GAs, such as "
Blood Sweat & Tears" and "
Fake Love". Please let me know if you would still like me to remove it.
While I'd like to see more musical information in WP articles, there is not much of it in reliable sources for pop music.
WP:GACR criterion #2a. includes "all inline citations are from reliable sources". Sheet music publishers like Alfred or Hal Leonard often show this, but I didn't see any in a quick online search.
[1] If you think Musicstax meets the SPS expert exception, OK. Otherwise, the article may have to do without.
Removed.
Listen box: The extra commentary "a
deep house and
pop song with stripped-down instrumentation" isn't really needed (
MOS:CAPSUCCINCT). Also, |format= is no longer used.
removed
stripped-down instrumentation: Would it be possible to describe this, e.g., "with only keyboards, drums (machine?), bass (synth?) provided by SM studio musicians" or whatever is the case.
unfortunately that's not available, so I'm keeping it as "stripped-down".
"View" retains the ...: This and the next sentence are too close to the wording in Billboard (
WP:PARAPHRASE).
revised
Having a sensual sound ...: I don't seethese points mentioned in the ref.
added a ref.
In the lyrics ...: Any info on why the English word "View" is used as the title for a Korean song and other English words/phrases are occasionally used?
Ojorojo, thank you for the comments. I've implemented the changes and replied above. Please let me know what you think. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 06:07, 23 May 2021 (UTC)reply
So far, so good. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 14:49, 23 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Accolades table: I can't read the Korean sources, but do the awards have names, e.g., "Song of the Year", "Best Video by a – ...", etc.? For extra credit, the table can be made
access friendly.
The info in both of these sections is already included in the "Release and commercial performance" section and doesn't appear to need repeating. See also
MOS:TABLES "[Tables] should be used only when appropriate; sometimes the information in a table may be better presented as prose paragraphs or as an embedded list" and
MOS:NO-TABLES includes "If a list is simple, it is generally better to use one of the standard Wikipedia list formats instead of a table. Lists are easier to maintain than tables, and are often easier to read."
removed.
Except for a review of the citations, that's about it. If there are a few stragglers, shall I fix them or list them here? —
Ojorojo (
talk) 15:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you, Ojorojo. Please feel free to fix any inconsistencies and let me know what you think. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 12:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)reply
The citations look good; I'm assuming good faith that the Korean-language sources meet RS. I made some miscellaneous fixes, including as noted under the previous sections. I removed the "Credits and personnel" section, because they just duplicate what is already mentioned and referenced. Please feel free to change as you see fit. —
Ojorojo (
talk) 14:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Thank you very much for the fixes. I am fine without the personnel section since that's indeed a repetition. And, all Korean sources that have been used in the article comply with
WP:KO/RS. --
Ashleyyoursmile! 14:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)reply
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