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Another VC list? Please separate British VC and VCfA awards - the VCfA was named in honour of the British VC but is a unique award of the Australian Honours System and should be separate to British VC awards. Anthony Staunton ( talk) 00:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
I will be removing this claim from various articles. The "reference" provided, Letter from the Cabinet Office, Honours and Appointments Secretariat, dated 17 September 2020
, is not a published reference. The only trace I can find of the text within it is in the Wikipedia articles it has been added to as a "reference". Should this claim have been made in reliable, published, references I have no objection to its restoration, but there is currently zero evidence the "reference" provided meets
WP:V.
FDW777 (
talk) 18:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Some of the material on this page was also partially derived from <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >FDW777 ( talk) 10:43, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
I will list the unreliable tabloid references, so people can see there is potential for change in the coming days.
The Scum use a headline of Queen confirms the George Cross IS on a par with the Victoria Cross – ending years of speculation
, which is followed up by the article itself claiming A formal statement due tomorrow will end decades of speculation about the order of the gongs
(the original article is timestamped 23 Sep 2020, 22:25, so "tomorrow" appears to have been postponed).
The Express claims the Royal Family posted on Instagram: "The George Cross is the equivalent of the Victoria Cross, which rewards actors of bravery on military operations."
Curiously I can find no evidence they did post any such thing on Instagram (unless it was posted as a "story" which disappears after 24 hours, which would seem somewhat unusual for an important statement), their George Cross image can be seen
here and does not appear to contain the claim the Express attribute to them.
So while it does appear they may be some official announcement in the pipeline (if you believe The Scum) it hasn't happened yet. FDW777 ( talk) 15:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
The article currently asserts that "The barrels of the Chinese cannon are on display in the Artillery Hall of The Royal Armouries at Fort Nelson, Hampshire." It also makes various other assertions that the medals were produced from Chinese cannons. However in 2020 Andrew Marriot published a couple of papers throwing XRF at the problem. One of them is Manufactured tradition? – the Victoria Cross which I don't have full access to but Investigating the origin and authenticity of Victoria Cross medals using X-ray fluorescence spectrometry published in nature is open access. It states "Cannon held at Woolwich, often referred to as the “VC guns”, are widely thought to be the source of many issued VCs, though which and how many is not known. Comparison of the composition of these guns to this large set of medals highlights that they are in fact not a close match to any of the VCs nor the sets of metal blocks held by the UK Ministry of Defence at Donnington and by Hancocks." The paper notes that cannon can vary in composition along their length but seems pretty sceptical of this possibility. It also doesn't find evidence for any matches with Chinese cannon. I can't access the sources claiming there is a link but they all predate this paper. ©Geni ( talk) 15:17, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
There is an apparent omission in the subsection the addition of which would be an improvement in this Featured Article. During the years of the centenary anniversaries of the First World War (2014 to 2018) commemorative stones to VC recipients of the war were presented to and unveiled at the recipients' home towns. I have lost memory how that was organised, did a government department pay for them? Did it apply only within the UK? I know for example Oswestry in Shropshire received one, placed in Cae Glas Park, in honour of Harold Whitfield in 2018. Cloptonson ( talk) 17:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
I am dropping ‘Because of its rarity’ and will start the second paragraph with ‘the VC is highly prized’. It is not rare compared to many medals including the George Cross, the four Albert Medals and the Conspicuous Gallantry Medals to name a few. The prestige of the VC has always been high and with so many now in public institutions, the number available for sale or auction is decreasing. Anthony Staunton ( talk) 07:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)