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This material was moved from Talk:Historic regions of the United States: Lou I 14:14, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
There is controversy over whether Vermont was ever officially recognized by the United States before its admission into the Union.
I submit that the United States maintained limited diplomatic relations, albeit with the aim of convincing Vermont to either reintegrate with its parent states, or itself join the United States, but a formal recognition nontheless.
Since Vermont was not retaken by force, its legislative institutions were preserved, and it was admitted as a new state, this ipso facto constitutes recognition that there was a legitimate independent political entity that had the right to join to begin with.
There are currently two articles, this one and New Hampshire Grants. The Grants article certainly has more material, but I suggest we keep discussion here. I’d also suggest the following split between the articles:
Naturally, these articles should link to each other, to History of New Hampshire, etc. Lou I 14:14, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
End material copied from U.S. page Ken Gallager ( talk) 14:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
The national Congress pretty well kept a hand's off policy to the situation. Their official view was that the Vermont area was Cumberland County and Gloucester County, New York. But, after 1775 these two counties were only present in New York's assembly for two months in 1779 during a brief period of attempted reconciliation. The representatives (Micah Townsend, et.al.) actually tried to negotiate a cash price for recognition, but failed.
Hostilities actually began around 1769, when locals began to ignore New York courts, sherrifs, etc. They peaked in 1775 when Allen siezed Fort Ticonderoga, as much to take it from New York as from the British. After the battle, as a compromise, the Vermonters withdrew but turned the fort over to Connecticut militia as a sort of neutral force. The need to address the Revolutinary War with Britain kept both sides from actively pusuing the matter further. During the war, some independent groups saw action, but most men involved simply joined either a New Hampshire or a New York regiment. Lou I 15:47, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I have heard somewhere that the first 10 Ammendments to the US Constitution (the bill of rights) were adaptations from the Constitution of the Vermont Republic when it was the first state to join the union, i.e., the 14th state. Can anyone verify this? Teetotaler 2 April 2007
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I'm wondering if the infobox should actually show flag of the Green Mountain Boys. According to what I was able to find so far, Vermont Republic never had any official flag that we know of. This green flag, was a flag used by a local military group during the Revolutionary War, and is now well regarded as historical/local patriotic symbol. But, I personally so far, wasn't even able to find anything that would state that flag was actually flown by the state. Best I had found so far, is website stating something like "some think that the flag was flown by the Vermont Republic".
So, as of now, with my current understanding of the topic, it seems to me more like modern re-imagination of history, due to modern association of that historical symbol with that historical period overall, depicte them not actually being connected.
I would love if there is somebody more knowledge in this topic (Vermont history etc).
As of now, I think that the flag should be removed from there
Thank you for your attention :)
Artemis Andromeda ( talk) 21:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)