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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after presenting a televised singing contest won by
Sarah Geronimo,
Regine Velasquez co-headlined a concert with her?
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I will be reviewing this article, comments will probably be finished in the next 72 hours! Good luck to the editors!
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Prose and MoS
Lede
in partnership with Pinoy Box Office,, add the before Pinoy.
Ticket sales was handled by TicketNet, with Colgate as a major sponsor., change was to were.
Both done
Background and development
leading up to the event, change to the lead up to the event.
Done
Concert synopsis
before transitioning into a Adele and Whitney Houston tribute number., change a to an.
Done
Reception and recording
No issues.
Set list
No issues based on grammar or MoS.
Refs
References are reliable, hopefully reference [17] could get replaced as it's a primary source, but if there are no other sources available will do a conditional pass.
The source in question is the media itself since the quotations and the interviews referenced in the behind-the-scenes are directly taken from this source, per
Cite AV media notes, and no other independent secondary sources were available (from what I've checked)
Please supply more sources for the Concert synopsis section.
Similar to above,
MOS:PLOT or
WP:PLOTCITE applies here. Plot summaries generally do not include in-line citations. However, alternatively, concert synopsis can use the actual recording as a primary source. I have not seen additional sourcing that details a review of the full concert, so I think the use of the actual media sample use is sufficient. (See similar FA/GA articles, and similar discussion from GA reviews
R2K: The Concert,
Freedom,
Songbird Sings Legrand Review)
Spotchecks
Earwig and manual spotcheck show up nothing. Pass.
Images
Image has proper license. Hopefully put pictures of Velasquez and Geronimo during that year in Background and development section.
Unfortunately none that exists for that year. Also, images that are not related to the event are usually not recommended, unless they are images taken from the concert itself.
Misc.
Stable, no ongoing edit war, focused on the topic, broad in its coverage, fair bias.
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Not really a fan of the hook as unless the reader is familiar with either Geronimo or Velasquez, the hook may not be that appealing. To me it really only seems to appeal either to major fans of either artist. The full review is to follow but in the meantime I'm pinging
Launchballer for any ideas for possible hooks that would also appeal even to non-Filipino audiences.
Narutolovehinata5 (
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00:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I'll admit to being surprised at the inclusion of "Pride (In the Name of Love)" and "What the World Needs Now is Love" in the same concert, although the latter has not much more name recognition. I can also suggest the following:
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Launchballer: ALT2 actually sounds good! However, I do wonder if having Colgate mentioned explicitly could work as an alternative option for the promoter. Will just wait for Pseud 14's thoughts on the new hooks before proceeding with the review. I'm not really a fan of ALT1 as if a reader is unfamiliar with the value of the Peso it makes less sense.
Narutolovehinata5 (
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10:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I think the interesting bit of ALT1 is 'some tickets were 20 times more expensive', and I would expect a {{convert}} template to be added to it anyway. I vaguely recall someone moaning at
WT:DYK about currently available commercial products, but I can propose:
Thanks for suggesting alternative hooks
Launchballer, I would go with the Alt3 hook you suggested - I disagree that "appeal" is only limited to fans of both artist. The reason for said hook is to establish that there is a history between both artists before doing the collaboration. You don't have to be familiar with them to be made aware that this fact, interestingly enough, exists. I would probably change "judging" to "hosting" or "presenting". (Alt2 I find is too common. Anyone can say an artist's concert or tour was sponsored by Pepsi)
Pseud 14 (
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17:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The article looks good to go on my end as everything is adequately sourced and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. There is that one quote but it's cited properly. One of the sources is Facebook, but it's Viva's official page so it should be acceptable per
WP:SPS. The approved hooks in this case are ALT2a and ALT3a. My preference remains ALT2a while the nominator prefers ALT3a. In the interest of compromise I will leave the final choice to the promoter, although if ALT3a is used I would suggest delinking Star for a Night to avoid having too many blue links in the hook.
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02:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)reply