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It's a shame you didn't nominate a line of this article for ;Did You Know?"...which can only be done within 5 days of the creation of a new article, or after a significant expansion of an article from stub status. In my view, it is neutral, "stable" (it's only a week old though), and well-written. The images used are appropriate, and appear to be included into wikipedia properly. Here are the special wikipedia problems with the article.
As is common, I will place the article on hold for a week (until September 6) to see if the fixes have been made. If so, it will be passed. If not, it will be failed. Thegreatdr 13:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Issue 2 has gotten worse, because the year issue has spread into the body of the article. Was it built in 1839, 1840, or 1940? Sabine wasn't alive in the 20th century, so I'm guessing the original nineteenth century years (1839 or 1840) are more correct. The body now has issues because of this, as the time line jumps from the 1830s into the 1940s then back into the 1850s. Thegreatdr 13:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
The inline references have been added...but there is a mistake with two of them which don't link to anything. Two lines in the lead are still not explained below. Was the move of the observatory (by 1907) to the University of Toronto? It was never explicitly stated in the main article. A reader looking over the article might think University College, since it was the last college mentioned. If the two are the same, that should be stated somewhere within the article. Also, if this facility marked the beginning of astronomical research in Canada, it needs to be in the main article below as well. A statement like that can not lie only in the lead. In the main article the phrase "Electrification of the tramways along College," what does it mean? Is college a road near the campus, or are we missing an article of speech or two? Also, I'm not sure you can call a building the oldest on campus if it was completely deconstructed/torn down after other buildings on campus were erected. Its materials may be the oldest building materials used on campus, but is that really the same? If you got that statement from a reference, add the appropriate inline reference next to the line and make sure it's in the main article below, where I still don't see it.
Thegreatdr 15:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Holy smokes, ArielGold, THANK YOU for doing all those refs! I was stealing myself up to go in and do them all at once, I have to say I really don't enjoy in-line ref editing :-( And then I see they're just done. :-) Ahhhhh... I can breath out again. You've saved my faith in the wiki! Maury 02:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay...life issues got in the way. Congratulations! Thegreatdr 20:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
As requested on my talk page [1], I'm providing an informal peer review at the request of User:Maury Markowitz. In general, I found it to be an interesting and well-written article; the organization is logical and it appears to be suitably illustrated and appropriately referenced for its current content. I think, however, there are several areas that would benefit from expansion. Here are some suggestions for further improvement of the article.
The article has a very good framework on which to build, and I suspect that some creative digging will probably fill a fair number of gaps. This review is based strictly on my own observations, and doesn't include a lot of the Manual of Style comments that would come from a formal Peer Review. I do urge you to consider going through that process, as you might find others have more (or different) suggestions. Thanks for inviting me to read and critique this article. Risker ( talk) 04:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
As I mentioned during the FAC, I wrote the U of T archivist. He's just written back again, and raises the following points:
1) About the 1852 painting by William Armstrong:
"Yes, the image is reversed. As for copyright, I suspect that what happened is that the information about the copyright holder was transferred from the photograph to the database."
2) About the black and white photo:
"This image of the Observatory is one for which we have a glass plate negative and a print. If I remember correctly, the dome was added to facilitate the observation of the transit of Venus in 1882."
3) More generally:
"Regarding the Wikipedia article itself, a couple of small observations. The Toronto Magnetic and Meteorological Observatory and the Stewart Observatory are NOT the same building as is clear from the description in the article. The name "Stewart Observatory" was not adopted until the 1980s, after an often heated debate.
"When the Meteorological Observatory was taken down and rebuilt on a somewhat smaller scale with the tower to the right, the dome was moved to the new structure. This did not happen in 1930 as suggested. The telescope from the TMMO was reinstalled in the dome in 1931.
"I would drop the name 'School of Practical Science'. It ceased to exist in 1906 and was replaced by the Faculty (not School) of Applied Science and Engineering.
"The Old Observatory was handed over to the Students' Administrative Council (now University of Toronto Students' Union) in 1953, which has used the building since then. The sentence, 'As of 2008, it houses the head office of the University of Toronto Students' Union' is misleading."
He also cc-ed the special media archivist, who I imagine is still on holiday. -- jbmurray ( talk • contribs) 20:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a line in this article that states the following:
"When this project ended in 1853, the observatory was taken over by the Canadian government, greatly expanded in 1855, and operated as the primary meteorological station and official Canadian timekeeper for over fifty years."
This could not have been taken over by the Canadian government because Canada did not exist until 1867.
I believe the article should read something like the following
When this project ended in 1853, the observatory was taken over by the government of the day, greatly expanded in 1855, and operated as the primary meteorological station and official Canadian timekeeper for over fifty years. Sbradley33 ( talk) 12:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The funny thing is most days its used to sell discount transit passes to students. What a waste... 99.232.190.178 ( talk) 12:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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