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I did the best I could. I put in what I remembered from Starship Troopers. At least I gave you guys something to work on and try to put in what you can.
Greetings, my most excellent friends. Sorry I forgot to log in before editing, But I can assure you it's me. Anyway, I saw the article here and decided it was time to expand it. So I picked up a copy of the book and re-read it. And from the text of the book and conjecture, I used that to write this article.
Ian Fressange
The result of the VFD can be found here: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Terran Federation -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:43, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) Keep- Outcome of vote was to keep, long live the Federation.-- 68.81.105.166 18:16, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hi guys, I love Starship Troopers. I added Scotland as the origin locality for the federation. Also I'd like to make some more edits at a later date, would like to discuss it with whoever else is showing an active editing phase in the article. Ryan4314 15:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I finished my proposed rewrite guys, please can we discuss it first if anyone thinks it needs reverting. Most obviously I thinned down the "Military" section, but my mindset when doing this was "make it understandable for people who haven't read the book" as people who have will already know this stuff.
You'll remember that Neodogs are referred to as being as smart as a human moron in the book, I didn't want to use a more politically correct, up to date term like Learning Disability as the two things are different. And I didn't want to put the word Moron in the article and then someone who undoubtedly knows very little about the context of the word will give a Knee-Jerk reaction, delete article, get FBI computer anti-terrorism on me, electric chair! So I went to the Moron (psychology) article and found out that the word was a scientific term when the book was written, meaning IQ of an 8-12 yr old kid. I tried explaining all this in the article, but it didn't sound very good so I just cut out the middle man. Ryan4314 12:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I think Terran Marines should have an electryfing shock when they touch a zergling trying to kill them. Better, init mush, instead of having a 3 tone shield!!!! Luigi Man.. 3 July 2007
Hi guys, I'm gonna trial "removal of the controversy section", don't worry I've merged all the info from it into the rest of the article. I felt this article should only be about the fictional government, not the controversy surrounding the book that can be found on the book's main page. I'm also considering moving all the stuff about federal service out of the government section and adding it to a new "Federal Service" section, then beefing up the government section. Let me know what y'all think, cheers Ryan4314 04:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Twice recently an unregistered user has altered the 5000 in "approx 5000 years in the future" to 500, so here's the proof it's not 500. Not only does it say "approx 5000 years" mentioned in the blurb on the back ( Hodder & Stoughton edition) but Juan Rico says in the book...
"We've been doing it, with changes in weapons but very little change in our trade, at least since the five thousand years ago when the foot sloggers of Sargon the Great forced the Sumerians to cry Uncle."
Well that was in the year 2333 – 2279 BC, which means the book is set in the year 3000 AD at least. Now I'll concede that I'd rather trust the book over the publishers blurb, However I left the article at 5000 years in the future untill I found more evidence that stated otherwise (Like why would the publishers get the number wrong?). In fact I only found that bit about Sargon the Great 2 days ago on a reread. I would much appreciate if others would contribute to this discussion please Ryan4314 21:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Noticing a minor dispute about terrorist activity I suggested citing page numbers to resolve the dispute. Here is one reply:
Well a page number is pretty useless as we probably have different editions, but mine page 98-99. Perhaps if I tell u it's shortly after chapter 8's beginning that might help?
I don't want to be involved in the dispute. I just recommend that the participants present their evidence here. Sbowers3 ( talk) 01:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's another reply also moved from a user talk page here for broader discussion:
Take a look at this: Excerpt from the book
I found myself mulling over a discussion in our class in History and Moral Philosophy. Mr. Dubois was talking about the disorders that preceded the breakup of the North American republic, back in the XXth century. According to him, there was a time just before they went down the drain when such crimes as Dillinger's were as common as dogfights. The Terror had not been just in North America -- Russia and the British Isles had it, too, as well as other places. But it reached its peak in North America shortly before things went to pieces. "Law-abiding people," Dubois had told us, "hardly dared go into a public park at night. To do so was to risk attack by wolf packs of children, armed with chains, knives, homemade guns, bludgeons . . . to be hurt at least, robbed most certainly, injured for life probably -- or even killed. This went on for years, right up to the war between the Russo-Anglo-American Alliance and the Chinese Hegemony. Murder, drug addiction, larceny, assault, and vandalism were commonplace.
My only comment to this is that "The Terror" is probably not what we think of today as terrorism. So I think most of the paragraph in dispute has a reasonable basis but the word "terrorism" probably is not appropriate. Sbowers3 ( talk) 02:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Obvious troll?? Dude, take it easy. I just pointed out the evidence according to which I edited the article, and apart from a slight inaccuracy in determining whether or not "Terror" refers to terrorism, there is nothing wrong with the information I added to article. Insulting people won't do you any good ... -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 23:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Umm, what I've written on that talk page is quite frankly none of your business. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 16:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
It has been mentioned that the Mobile Infantry are the Marines not the Army. Robert A. Heinlein said it himself. General Mannino ( talk) 02:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the M.I is a branch that fits somewhere between the Marines and the Army. Although, the M.I was never referred to in the novel as "Marines", and we would assume it actually belongs to the Army. -- UNSC Trooper ( talk) 13:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR ( talk) 06:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Terran Federation → Terran Federation (Starship Troopers) — This is not obviously the primary meaning, move it to make way for a dab page. — 70.55.86.139 ( talk) 05:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's naming conventions.I think it might be a good idea to make a "Citizens Federation" Section, since it does not have a article of it's own.
It could show how the Terran Federation from the novel, witch is patterned after the Roman republic, differs from the Citizen's Federation from the Movies, witch is patterned after a Fascist Dictatorship (Namely Nazi Germany). Henshin86 ( talk) 17:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)