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If you follow this page, you've probably noticed that I've completely rewritten the article over the last few weeks. My goal here is to get it to Featured status and on the Main Page this year, perhaps on October 5 (anniversary of Tecumseh's death) or October 12 ( Indigenous Peoples' Day).
Sources: My desire is that the article is sourced using only modern scholarly writings on Tecumseh, the Shawnees, and the War of 1812, which are abundant. Prior to my rewrite, the article was filled with sources that were unscholarly, or antiquated, or even fictional (such as Allan Eckert or the fabricated "Where today are the Pequot?" speech by Tecumseh). Antiquated sources are frequently used on these types of Wikipedia articles because they're online and easy to cite, but of course they are subject to old-fashioned biases which have no place here, and they've usually been updated by modern scholarship. Unscholarly (or, more charitably, " popular history" sources) are less problematic, but we don't need them here when we have plenty of secondary sources that are written by experts on the subject matter.
Terminology: Sources are the easy part. The challenge is using terminology that will satisfy readers of various nationalities. Many younger Americans and Canadians bristle at the term "Indians," having been taught to think it's outdated or even a slur, even though almost all of our modern scholarly sources use that term. Young Americans think "Native American" is the only respectful term, while Canadians of all ages seem to be onboard with "First Nations." A few scholars (American, British, and Canadian) have embraced the compromise term "Native," which is what I prefer, but it's still a minority usage. Probably the best we can do is stick with what we have now and address the terminology in a footnote.
Regards, Kevin1776 ( talk) 11:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Here's an overview of how many of our modern sources on Tecumseh handle the terms "Indian," "Natives," "Native Americans," etc.
My sense is that although American scholarly writers (including sources not used in this article) still use "Indians," there is increasing usage of "Natives," a term long favored by Canadians when writing about historical people. Canadians, of course, usually refer to contemporary Native people as "First Nations." Kevin1776 ( talk) 08:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
The "page information" tool tells me that 287 people have Tecumseh on their watchlist. If you are reading this and have the time, we could use a couple more reviews of this article here. Wikipedia editors with an interest in Native American history are few and far between. If you are one of those uncommon folks, step up and let your voice be heard. Much appreciated! Kevin1776 ( talk) 05:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
@ WP:MILHIST coordinators: -- How can this be a FA article if it had failed A-class assessment. Adamdaley ( talk) 16:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
The current edit shows "Tecumthé" and "Lalawéthika", but I can find no evidence that the symbol "é" is employed in any orthography of the Shawnee language. Which RS claims this as part of the langauge, @ Kevin1776:? Thanks. Chaswmsday ( talk) 04:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
XV sqn Royal Air Force... brought forward from the RFC. Fourth commanding officer, H (le) M. Brock. ... I'm not in to genealogy but if I'm a relative then all these people on reality shows "with a story" cn f*ck left off! 2A02:C7E:42CB:3E00:E51A:FD03:36F7:9975 ( talk) 23:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
The [ image of Tecumseh] previously (November 2022) used on this page does not meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability or neutrality. If one follows the trail of citation links on the image page to the origins of the image, it is from the artist Owen Staples’ rendition of an engraving by Benson John Lossing, which was based on composite sketches by French trader Pierre Le Dru, and other drawings as recorded in Pictorial Field Book of the War of 1812. Lossing did not meet Pierre Le Dru but made copies from the drawings held by Le Dru’s son (p. 189). The footnotes in the Pictorial Field Book of the War of 1812 state that Le Dru’s contribution was “the head” (p. 283).
Regarding the point of neutrality, the Tecumseh02.jpg is also used to depict the Mi’kmaw leader Jean Baptiste Cope (1698-1758). The image appears in:
· posters at Mi’kmaw Friendship Centre, Halifax, Nova Scotia
· newspaper articles such as Jones, El. 2015. ‘ Politer Genocide: Morning File’. Halifax Examiner, 28 November 2015. http://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/uncategorized/morning-file-saturday-november-28-2015/,
· Gloade, Gerald. Grand Chief Jean Baptiste Cope and Treaty of 1752. Membertou, Nova Scotia: Mi’kmaw Kina’matnewey, 2018.
As long as there is a question as to whom this likeness represents, the image should either not be used, or at the very least, a subsection should be added to the page discussing the variety of images used to depict Tecumseh.
There are other sources of depictions of Tecumseh that can be used on this page in place of the Owen Staples image. These include:
· The image of Tecumseh listed at the Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division site. There are no known restrictions on publication. This image is also used by the Encyclopedia Britannica's entry on Tecumseh.
· The image used on the Tecumseh entry at Biography.com
· The image of Tecumseh listed in the Bibliothèque et Archives Nationales du Québec
· The image of Tecumseh listed in Library and Archives Canada
AAAPprog2022 ( talk) 22:23, 13 November 2022 (UTC)