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The bio posted at
[1] and
[2] (identical text as of posting) displays a very conspicuous (and phraseologically awkward) avoidance of any personal pronouns. Given that, and in the absence of any immediately apparent source either way, I'm not confident that the article's use of feminine pronouns (and categorization in a female people category) is correct. Is there a source that addresses this? (A non-official source that uses feminine pronouns without addressing the issue specifically is probably not good enough, because the author could just be assuming.) – PointyOintment (
talk ·
contribs) 09:58, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Tash Sultana is female. The use of female pronouns ought to be used. The article is confusing in it's use of pronouns as mentioned by PointyOintment. This needs to be edited to reflect her gender.
TylerJWhit (
talk) 17:41, 14 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The newsweek article cited on the wiki page
[3] clearly states that Tash uses they/them/their pronouns. The wiki page should follow this. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
144.15.255.227 (
talk) 17:55, 19 September 2018 (UTC)reply
I disagree. I believe correct grammar should be used on this platform. Using plurality in place of singular references disrupts reading flow and seems amateurish.
StaticPressure (
talk) 17:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)reply
At last, ik am pleased to mete a nother Wikipedian who is as appall'd by the use of the barbarous singular you as ik am. Thou art right, in a propre Encyclopaedia we scholde speke as oure forefathers, not degrade oure greate tongue with wordys newer than 1300 AD. (Singular they is fine, thaugh, it is from the 1200s.)
-sche (
talk) 19:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Singular "they"is grammatically correct, as that article explains. Also, the Wikipedia Manual of Style explicitly states both that we should respect a subject's own perception of their gender identity (
MOS:GENDERID) and that Singular they pronouns are appropriate to use in reference to a person who goes by them. (
MOS:NEOPRONOUN) — OwenBlacker (he/him;
Talk; please {{
ping}} me in replies) 16:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Just because an individual prefers that other people misuse the English language does not mean they must or should. Certainly, an on-line encyclopedia should use correct, modern, grammar.
Gcarter112 (
talk) 18:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree completely. That's why we use singular they here, despite some individuals' preference that we shouldn't. :)
-sche (
talk) 20:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)reply
To clarify: historically, "they" has been correctly used for indeterminant antecedents, like "someone" not determinant antecedents like "the boy."
StaticPressure (
talk) 16:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)reply
It's absolutely ridiculous to use to poor and confusing grammar to humor someone with a complete lack of basic biology principles. Acceptance is one thing, but dumbing down society for individual self gratification is FUCKING RETARDED.
108.11.8.13 (
talk) 15:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)reply
The above comment is partially correct. Here is an interview where the artists explicitly states "I think people took it a bit too seriously. I was being a little bit sarcastic"
[4]. This wiki article reads badly. If the above commenter wishes to fix awkward phrasing, they are welcome to. However, it would simplier to user the pronoun her/she as there is little evidence the artist identifies or prefers they/them. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
203.29.104.16 (
talk) 03:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The vagueness is indeed awkward. I suggest we address it clearly and concisely early in the article and then we continue with the preferred gender-neutral pronouns. Following suit from the
Caitlyn Jenner article, I propose we start the article as follows:
Tash Sultana (born Natasha Sultana; 15 June 1995) is an Australian singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist, described as a "one-person band". Sultana's 2016 single "Jungle" was voted into third place in the
Triple J Hottest 100, 2016; Sultana also had three songs voted into the
Triple J Hottest 100, 2017.
As far as I can tell, your edit does nothing to address the issues raised above (with pronouns/wording, which the lead already does not use), and only adds a second name. Was this person ever notable under that other name, e.g. famous under that name as a musician, as they are under the current name? If not, then it should not be in the lead there (per
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Changed_names, the part that starts "In the case of..."). Jenner, of course, was notable under her other name.
-sche (
talk) 07:34, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
I would say, let's make the edit it as it moves us in the right direction. As much as it helps with the vagueness, I agree that it doesn't fully solve it. However, there's no need to keep the article reading so poorly simply because a perfect solution hasn't been found yet.
Hamsterlopithecus (
talk) 17:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)reply
She is a woman. Refer to her as "she", not "they" please. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Severian 1 (
talk •
contribs) 06:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)reply
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
"A home recording of the single "Jungle" has gained over 40 million views. Sultana went into the studio with producer Nikita Miltiadou and began working on the EP release Notion. In September 2016, they released the EP through their own independent record label, Lonely Lands Records."
I'm confused: who released the EP and who owns the record label - Sultana and Militiadou or Sultana alone? These are very basic facts, but the use of pronouns in the article makes them unintelligible.
JezGrove (
talk) 19:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2020 - Change Pronouns
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2020 - Update ARIA Music Awards table
Change {{pending}} to {{nom}}
Change Award entry from ARIA Award for Best Soul/R&B Release to [[ARIA Award for Best Soul/R&B Release|Best Soul/R&B Release]]
Add or Update reference to <ref name="ARIA 2020 Wins">{{cite web | url = https://www.aria.com.au/awards/news/and-the-2020-aria-award-goes-to | title = And the 2020 ARIA Awards Go To… | publisher = Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA) | access-date = 2 December 2020 | archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20201126005048/https://www.aria.com.au/awards/news/and-the-2020-aria-award-goes-to | archive-date = 26 November 2020 | url-status = live }}</ref>
Not done: please provide
reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. also read this talk page and
WP:GENDERID, seems they have chosen "they" as their preferred pronouns in the past
Cannolis (
talk) 17:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Suggest Update on YouTube views…
Latest views of jungle are now at 163M so needs updating
122.106.100.12 (
talk) 12:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Now up to 168 Million views and counting.
72.14.126.22 (
talk) 00:37, 23 June 2024 (UTC)reply