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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
Launchballertalk 09:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Painting of Taiyin Xingjun, the Western Xia (982–1227), in Hermitage Museum.
... that Taiyin Xingjun(pictured) is considered the original Chinese moon goddess, even though
Chang'e is sometimes viewed as an accidental resident and is also regarded as an incarnation of her? Source:
找神!拜對正廟有緣神: 拓展「神脈」,更要抱對「佛腳」!
Hi, who will review my DYK? And how many days do I need to wait for a review?
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 18:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. Please be patient. This is a volunteer effort, and the average wait time for a review could be around two to three weeks, perhaps sooner or later depending on who is active. Please be mindful of
WP:DYK200. It may help to present alternate hooks for consideration.
Viriditas (
talk) 20:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)reply
But it was too long to wait; even my second DYK was reviewed.
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 05:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Article is sourced well, no plagiarism, new enough, long enough, but needs another pass over for grammar, spelling, and tone. Article could also use clarification about which aspects of worship of this god apply to China/specific regions of China, and which to Taiwan. Hook should also be simplified. How about: ...that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, but is often confused with Chang'e?
@
TheGreatPeng: Hi, please make the changes mentioned above, the article has some issues with tone. On review, it seems like there are several quotes which are not distinguished from the text of the article, these should be incorporated into the text or at least separated into quote blocks. See:
WP:QUOTE
The new hook you suggested sounds good, with slight correction: "...that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, while the more famous Chang'e is considered her incarnation? "
@
Luiysia: I've done my best to adjust the grammar and tone, even though I'm not a copyeditor. However, I'm unsure about how to format certain text from books or historical documents as a quote block since it's not dialogue. Could you provide an example quote block, and I'll adjust accordingly?
WP:QUOTE is not helpful. Thanks!
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 10:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Request - To DYK promoter, As a newbie, I have made 4 or 5 DYK articles, but none of them were chosen with a photo. So if possible, please promote this DYK with an image. Thanks
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 05:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Luiysia and
TheGreatPeng: Many sections would deserve citation needed tags. These should be remedied before this can be promoted. (Note to self: the remaining checks still need to be done.)--Launchballer 18:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Launchballer, thanks for your comments. Please look at my previous articles that I created. All were perfectly sourced and easily verifiable. For this article, I used well-sourced information and only included content from those sources. If you can't verify the information because the sources are in Chinese, you can use Google Translate or Google Lens. Most parts of the article are quotes, and references for these quotes can be found at the end of the paragraphs, such as "stating," or "said," since I can't add references in the "block quote template." I have now removed many paragraphs related to Jielin, another name for the moon, which can also be identified with other Chinese moon gods. All information is sourced, and if you have questions about the sources, please ask me on the article's talk page. I will explain on a case-by-case basis. Thanks!
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 05:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:DYKCITE, all paragraphs require inline citations. Also, what makes that 356 word wall of text comply with
WP:NPS?--Launchballer 09:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Yes, all information are sourced, so what's your problem? You are know more than me in Chinese?
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 12:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
TheGreatPeng, you would do well to tone down the bluster, seeing as this article contains significant plagiarism of machine-translated text. Take the third paragraph of the body: when you run its source through Google Translate, you find "During the Qing dynasty, the worship of the moon in Beijing changed somewhat. It evolved from the early pure Taoist worship of Chang'e to the secular image of the Moonlight Bodhisattva and the medicine-pounding Jade Rabbit that blended Buddhism and Taoism. The Moonlight God was mostly presented by Taoist temples, titled "Yuefu Suyao Taiyin Xingjun". The first and second sentences, in particular, are almost identical. I will tag the article for
close paraphrasing; evidence will need to be presented that the issue is fixed, as we can no longer AGF blindly.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk) 19:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
AirshipJungleman29: You might want to check nominator's
other DYK nomination (which is currently sitting in Prep 6 and may be Queued real soon) for close paraphrasing as well, given it also contains foreign sources I AGF approved.
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (
talk) 21:53, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I saw someone change that sentence recently, so do I need to change anything else in the article?
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 05:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)reply
If I were you, I would stop digging a hole for yourself through unnecessary aggression. Yes, you need to change the article: per
WP:RSUEQ, I ask that you provide quotes for every citation in the article. I will check the Fat Cat article later.
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (
talk) 09:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Withdraw - I would like to withdraw my DYK submission because I don't have time to explain the nonsense. I need to go to some palce for my holilday now and later, I have to visit the hospital to get a rabies vaccine. Thanks.
TheGreatPeng (
talk) 08:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply