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"Many believe the act was to discriminate against immigrants in New York, particularly Italians, as the first person arrested under the law was mobster Giuseppe Costabile." This statement is sourced to a pro-gun blog, and not even to a particular blog entry there. "Many believe" seems a questionable way to make a factual statement. Positioning this information above the facts about Mayor Gaynor seems to bias the conclusions away from the factual causes and toward specualtive ones -- that is, the Gaynor shooting was a definite factor in the law's passage and discrimination only a possible one, and yet discrimination is given privilege of place (and length, and consideration). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.172.169 ( talk) 21:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Moved from article page, as it does not constitute either a "pro" or "con" position on the act: (It could go elsewhere in the article, though)
-- snoyes 00:19, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
A quick question: The following sentence is unclear: "Upon first passage, the Sullivan Act banned the ownership of pistols in New York, more formally, it required licenses for New Yorkers to own guns small enough to be concealed." Does it mean that pistols were outright prohibited at first, but then allowed if licensed? Was it not in fact a ban, but rather a mandatory licensing? -- snoyes 00:22, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I expanded the list of weapons cited by the law. While working on "Mad Bomber" George Metesky I was surprised to discover he was also charged with Sullivan Law violations for carrying the thirty-odd bombs he placed around town. The law also makes having a cute little gadget called a slungshot a felony; I thought it was a typo for slingshot, but it's not. -- CliffC 11:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Slungshot and slingshot in early 20th century weapons laws: Tennessee law on "going armed" forbids carrying the "slingshot" which appears to reference either the weaponized slungshot or a large metal ball (shot) in a leather or canvas bag. This has led to some humor among modern readers who read it as banning carry of slingshots. Naaman Brown ( talk) 17:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
After finding this reference to
slungshot, I followed the link. The article for "slungshot" lists states that outlaw it, and New York is not one of them. Is that an error in the "slungshot" article, or just on this talk page? They can't both be right.
Jororo05 (
talk) 21:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
It's attributed to Timothy Sullivan, but I couldn't find anything solid saying it was his act, though this reference makes a bland statement about gun control. Sullivan is a common name. So was it Timothy Sullivan? Some other Sullivan?
dino ( talk) 01:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
I am a direct descendant of Big Tim and he was the primary sponsor of the 1911 legislation. Also, Sullivan was not "committed" to a mental hospital. He did suffer from tertiary syphilis and was adjudicated incompetent to handle his own affairs. With that, I removed that incorrect sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.53.241 ( talk) 19:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Dan Czitrom, "Underworld and Underdogs: Big Tim Sullivan and Metropolitan Politics in New York, 1889-1913", Journal of American History, 78.2. (1991) THAT Timothy Sullivan arrogant power- and money-grabbing thug. Naaman Brown ( talk) 14:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Removing "notoriously corrupt" from the intro, because it's not pertinent to the act. There is info about Mr Sullivan's personal involvement later in the article. David ( talk) 12:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps we could describe the nature of the controversy itself. The lede mentions the event that generated widespread support for the act; what was the nature of the opposition? David ( talk) 01:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Correction — the lede does ``not`` mention the murder-suicide that generated support. Perhaps we could briefly summarize the controversy itself. David ( talk) 01:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
I am searching for a reference that research which supported the Sullivan Act was admitted on the death bed of it's author to have been falsified. Anybody know who that was? Contact me "at" kc4iai_hotmail.com
LK Tucker 108.206.18.197 ( talk) 06:24, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Currently this article quotes from Justice Alito’s concurrence in the Bruen case, but shouldn’t it also make reference to the majority opinion of the Supreme Court, authored by Justice Thomas, which declared the “proper cause” requirement unconstitutional (after it had apparently stood for a over a century)? RoslinTollcross ( talk) 23:08, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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