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I dispute that TKO, Osaka street cutter and Twist of Fate are types of stunner. 193.122.31.188 10:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the "twist of fate" was invented during Jeff's stay in the WWE.
Before Mickey Whipwreck used it, Johnny Ace used it in the early 90's as his finisher in Japanese wrestling: The Ace Crusher. I think he was the first guy to use it. Uncle Muller 2007
There should be a mention of Johnny Ace in the article. He used the stunner varient before Mikey Whipwreck, but the article reads as if Mikey invented the hold. HDC7777 ( talk) 15:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Is the diamond cutter the same as the elevated stunner? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.148.6 ( talk) 23:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
the twist of fate is also listed under article Cutter (professional wrestling) - surely it cant be both a stunner and a cutter - that would be too huge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.148.6 ( talk) 23:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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