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Most of the Slovak Jews, deported to Poland in 1942 were in fact murdered in the
Operation Reinhard death camps
Belzec and
Sobibór; smaller groups were deported also to
Auschwitz and its subsidiary camps. Most of the victims gassed immediately upon arrival perished however in the Action Reinhard death camps; there were whole transports, usualy of 1.000 victims per train, that were doomed to certain death, because in Belzec and Sobibór, no selections of labor-able and labor-unfit people were conducted, as is known from Auschwitz later; instead, the whole transports were gassed at once immediately upon arrival, sometimes with an exception of a few dozens of young, strong men who were temporary preserved from death to be forced to conduct the horrible tasks of a jewish
Sonderkommando in the death camp.
It is worth mention, that the Slovak State Government actually paid the Third Reich 100, or 500 (I'm not sure about the exact sum, it was either a 100 or 500,--) Reichsmark for every jewish person, deported from Slovak territory into Nazi-Occupied territories in this early stage of deportations, which is a particularly awful aspect of the Slovak Holocaust. I'm not aware of any other Government anywhere, that would pay the Third Reich for disposing of their own jewish people.
Later, in summer and autumn 1944, most of the further deportees were transferred to Auschwitz-Complex camps and selectioned into those doomed to be gassed immediately and those forced to labor in the concentration camps.--
84.163.127.40 10:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)reply
The Slovak government paid the Nazis for the VOCATIONAL retraining of Jewish deportees (assumed to be resettled in a reservation around Lublin), not for extermination. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
74.70.144.72 (
talk) 02:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)reply
After Tuka managed to settle an agreement with German diplomatic and SS officials, that none of the Jews will ever return. You mean this was ment to be a vocational retraining? Of women, elderly and children, which constitued a significant proportion of 1942 deportations? And that
SS-Sturmbannführer Dieter Wisliceny, directly negotiating with Tuka in late 1941/early 1942 was making any misconceptions that the Jews would not be deported to concentration camps and settled in countryside in the east instead? Not even going to mention the treatment of imprisoned Jews in slovak transitory concentration camps (like that in Sered or Nitra, heard of it?) before their deportation by the auxiliary Hlinka Guards. These men (HGs in ranks of soldiers, NCOs and middle-level officiers) knew, what is going to happen with the deportees. So, and their direct and indirect superiors, e.g. Sano Mach didn't, yes? Well...--
84.163.112.206 (
talk) 20:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply
German occupation commanders
As discussed ([
[1]]) already in the Slovak National Uprising article discussion, SS-StbF
Hermann Höfle wasn't in charge of the troops suppressing the SNU and occupying thereafter the territory. It was SS-OgruF and General of the Waffen-SS Hermann Höffle (whose name is obviously easily confused with the former). I therefore change the wikilink (article about SS-OgruF H. Höffle doesn't exist to date, nevertheless). Cheers.--
84.163.112.206 (
talk) 21:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)reply
The Coat of Arms of the first Slovak Republic
Please, everyone and whoever: I changed the link to the coat of arms' picture used on the slovak version site, but its colours are different (more bright). I do not dare to change the flag's link also. Instead I'm asking some skillfull well-doer: please, try to alternate the picture! As you can see, it really IS a DIFFERENT coat of arms... —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
147.213.138.3 (
talk) 10:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)reply
Wrong anthem of Slovak Republic
Oficial anthem was not ,,Nad tatrou sa blýska", but panslavic Samuel Tomasik´s song - ,,Hej Slováci" — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
178.40.34.174 (
talk) 15:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)reply
No, though this is a common belief, the official anthem was "Nad tatrou sa blýska". "Hej Slováci" was generally favored by the leaders, but it was unofficial. As it says in
Hey Slovaks: "In Slovakia, the song 'Hey, Slovaks' has been considered the unofficial song of the Slovaks throughout its modern history, especially at times of revolutions. Although after the First World War the song 'Nad Tatrou sa blýska' became the official Slovak anthem in Czechoslovakia and then again in 1993 in the independent Slovak Republic, 'Hey Slovaks' is still considered a 'second' anthem by many (usually more nationalist) people. Contrary to popular assumptions, however, it was not the official anthem of the wartime Slovak Republic (1939–1945), but it was greatly favored by the ruling party (Slovakia's official anthem remained 'Nad Tatrou sa blýska' during that period)." This is confirmed by what I have been able to find in sources.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 01:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)reply
You were wrong, and your sources are worth nothing, and all this articles in wiki are in the same manner, like this about Slovak anthem, lies and propaganda from sources who never were in Slovakia and have absolutely no clue about Slovakia. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
90.64.95.2 (
talk) 03:06, 31 January 2020 (UTC)reply
'Recognition' by Britain
Slovakia was not recognised officially by United Kingdom - only consular relations were established on May 4 1939 - i.e. only de facto recognition, not de iure. Backing 'British recognition' by this is pure falsification of history.--
195.113.8.138 (
talk) 08:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Agreed. The text of the consul's letter asks for HIS recognition by the Slovak Government, not the other way around. I'm removing this text.
24.218.159.19 (
talk) 04:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
have added a section on diplomatic recognition, which hopefully sheds some more light on the issue. As to the specific question discussed, Britain de facto recognized Slovakia between May and September 1939. Between September 1939 and July 1940 the UK position was somewhat hazy (Slovakia was declared under German occupation, but the former Czechoslovak legation in London was not recognized formally). In July 1940 Britain officially recognized the Czechoslovak government on exile, which terminated the ambiguous situation and of course stood for non-recognition of Slovakia --
89.64.67.19 (
talk) 07:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)reply
slovensky stat/slovak state
the whole page should be called Slovak State as this was the first official name of the country. moreover, everybody knows this short-lived country under this name and this is much more widely used than first slovak republic. "slovak republic" is definitely related to the current country, not the WWII one. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Dusoft (
talk •
contribs) 00:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Official name was Slovak Republic, not Slovak state. --
EllsworthSK (
talk) 23:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)reply
The section Name.
As it stands this is very badly written since it implies that they named the republic in 1939 in anticipation of the country that exist today.
88.90.43.140 (
talk) 03:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Merger proposal
The article
Slovakia during World War II seems to cover basically the same scope of topics and events, and the same time period chronologically, as this article. Not sure why it has its own article; maybe someone could argue for why they're separate? It seems that Slovak participation in/activities during WWII should be comprehensively covered in a discussion of a Slovak state and government that came about primarily as a result of German intervention, as this article purports to be. Incidentally, the Slovakia during World War II article suffers from a total lack of references and generally poor quality, both of which could be rectified through the process of merging it into this article.
smf (
talk) 22:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Support merge.
GobonoboTC 15:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)reply
Support It does make sense.
Fakirbakir (
talk) 13:24, 7 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Makes sense to me. I came here looking for the WWII article. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
174.44.139.216 (
talk) 18:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)reply
Support merge. I took a crack at making sense of the
Slovakia during World War II but it is in pretty bad shape and seems to be actually wrong in some places. I am not an expert on this topic, though I can do research - help would be great.--
MLKLewis (
talk) 00:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose (sort of). Ideally, these should be two articles, one about the state of Slovakia from 39-45 and one about the history of the period. In reality, the article on the state has no history section and is not particularly long so the current (small and rather weak) history article would fit in fine. —
AjaxSmack 02:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge. I oppose the merger because I feel that there should be two separate articles on Slovakia during World War II, one as a summary of the country and discussing the country's structure during that time like the currency and government set-up (Slovak Republic (1939-1945)) and the other article for a more detailed history on the country and its role during WWII (Slovakia during World War II).
Buspirtraz (
talk) 09:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge. Obviously there should be two articles. --JaviP96 17:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)reply
Oppose merge. An article about a historical polity should not be merged with an article which is part of a series on the history of a present-day state. --
Omnipaedista (
talk) 16:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)reply
Oppose, but... some material should be swapped between the two articles. The section "Slovak Military" should be stubbish in this article -- the subsection "Slovak forces during the campaign against the Soviet Union" is now larger than the similar section in the
Slovakia during World War II and should be moved there, for instance.
Slovakia during World War II should be mainly military history with just enough background to make sense, and this article vice versa.
Herostratus (
talk) 03:25, 12 November 2014 (UTC)reply
For a non-historian, this article does not immediately make clear precisely what the Slovaks centered in their rear-view mirror. Their half of the Czecho-Slovakia union? Their purported leanings toward Hungary? Ominous influence from Poland? It really wouldn't hurt this account to treat "declare independence" as taking a specific object. Had Quebec left Canada, it wouldn't have done so by declaring independence; it would have done so by declaring sovereignty. I'm not so clear on this mushy concept of "independence" that the terms should be left implicit. —
MaxEnt 01:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Controversy
The article contains text The majority of the Allies of World War II never recognized the existence of Slovak state. The only exception was Soviet Union... In the list of states recognizing it is also El Salvador, that was one of the allies. Either it did not recognize Slovakia or Soviet Union was one of the two. -
Melilac (
talk) 20:45, 28 March 2017 (UTC)reply
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Slovak Republic (1939–1945) → Slovak State –
WP:COMMONNAME. After Googling, I have established that this is the more common term; also, it is closer to the character of government (a totalitarian regime responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of its own citizens).
Catrìona (
talk) 10:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose the dates are essential. And state is ambiguous.
In ictu oculi (
talk) 12:50, 14 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Why are the dates essential? The present day
Slovak Republic is not located at
Slovak Republic (1993–present). "Slovak State" is not ambiguous; while all Slovak states could be described as such, the capitalization is only used with one iteration—this one.
Catrìona (
talk) 13:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Hi Catríona, would not be better First Slovak State? I think mostly people would confuse Slovaks State with Slovak Republic...(
KIENGIR (
talk) 15:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC))reply
"Slovak State" has a particular meaning within Slovak historiography, and there was only one of it. "First Slovak State" is not commonly used.
Catrìona (
talk) 03:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose "Slovak State" is less clear then "Slovak Republic (1939-1945)" and ambiguous.
Note: Why are dates essential? The are not only about a period. The modern Slovak Republic and Slovak Republic (1939-1945) are formally two different states. The first completely ceased to exist and it has never been restored. The modern Slovak Republic derives from Czechoslovakia (= the Czechoslovak government in exile and the revolutionary Slovak National Coucil, enemies of the Slovak Republic /1939-1945/). --
Ditinili (
talk) 23:23, 14 November 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Ditinili: Your explanation is exactly why I think the current scheme is flawed. The naming scheme for Czechoslovakia is at least more consistent:
First Czechoslovak Republic,
Second Czechoslovak Republic,
Third Czechoslovak Republic. But if you currently google Slovak Republic, the first result is this page, not the modern Slovak Republic, making it seem as if there's a connection because they have the same name. Whereas, the phrase "Slovak State" is almost only used to refer to this entity.
Catrìona (
talk) 03:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Catríona, I see your argumentation regarding the Slovak historiography, but here also it should be taken into account to avoid the possible confusion in English. I see you took your proposal from the lead, however since both entities were a republic, still I'd feel First Slovak Republic more suitable, thus having some analogy with the Czechoslovak state examples you have shown. Regarding the dates, also as you may see on Hungarian states - apart from political or other relations - mostly the dates are inlcuded in the title when necessary or just because to depict the county in a more detailed a specific period. Btw. I have no problem with the current title, but if you say in English "Slovak State" is associated better with this entity than "First Slovak Republic"...I am not so sure...(
KIENGIR (
talk) 08:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC))reply
Well, when I search for "Slovak State" I get 200,000 results on Google, many more than for "First Slovak Republic"; the first three results are Wikipedia articles (this one,
Slovakia during World War II, and a passage in
Slovakia stating, "The Slovak state paid Germany 500 RM per every deported Jew"). The rest of the results all refer to this entity. However, I can see the potential for ambiguity and perhaps "Slovak State (1939–1945)" could be considered as an alternative title. However, I believe that it's more common to refer to this state as the "Slovak State" than the "Slovak Republic".
Catrìona (
talk) 09:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose "Slovak State" could refer to any government of Slovakia. No opinion on a rename to
Slovak State (1939–1945).
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