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The lead should only contain information that is not contradicted by the article itself. Some sources say that Sigurd Ring's father was born in Russia, while the Danish Gesta Danorum says that his father was the king of Sweden. This makes it peculiar to call him a "Danish king of Denmark" in the intro. Moreover it is equally unreasonable to call him the "paternal nephew" of Harald Hildetand (which he was in some sources) when Gesta Danorum says that Sigurd was Harald's maternal nephew.-- Holger the Dane 12:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Most sources says he was the son of Randvar -- Huskarl 15:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I just reverted it back mister. I don't know were you get your Rusia and grandson from?
Saxo also write that Harald Hildetand gave the boy guardians, and put him over his father's kingdom (After Ingjald should had died).
It just seems weird that a boy should be king of Svealand. -- Huskarl 15:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
ok, it also seems like you have your own pov in how to write this article when looking at your edits. And next time please use the function "Show preview" before posting your comments. -- Huskarl 15:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I had removed Category:House of Munsö. Lars O. Lagerquist wrote in Sveriges regenter (1996) that Björn Ironside (who Lagerquist does not accept as historical) was according to the sagas the först one of a new dynasty, and that according to 18th-century antiquarians Björn was buried in the Munsö mound. Sigurd is supposed to have been earlier than Björn Ironside. He was not a member of Björn's new dynasty. That is why I remove the category. Please do not put it back in unless you have a source at least as good as Lagerquist. / Pieter Kuiper 18:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
From where do we get the spelling Hring? I doubt it's more frequent in standard English literature than Ring. Will move if not sourced. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 08:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
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I moved this, but only the talk page went through. --
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talk) 22:09, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
According to Saxo, Ring (simply Ring not Sigurd) of the Battle of Bravellir, nephew of Harald Wartooth, and Sigurd Ring, father of Ragnar Lodbrok are different persons. And there is more than 10 generations between them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.87.154.162 ( talk) 00:33, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
We should use less, not more, Old Norse lettering. This is English Wikipedia which is supposed to be able to be read aloud, not just ocularly, so whenever possible, normal readers of English should be spared the encumberment of such wording that requires expertise. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 10:31, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
In response to this revert, I will soon again be removing ficticious "succession" that makes these titles and positions look like factual history. Unless someone can give a very good reason to keep that silliness, and source reliably in the article that it has any legitimacy of any kind. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 16:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
I posted this elsewhere but i will now post it here.
I see your point but by that logic literally all the other legendary kings of Sweden, Norway, and Denmark would have to be edited as well as ALL legendary kings of Europe, good luck getting that done. Eysteinn Beli and so forth all have this form of succession. It's just to provide a easier understanding of the supposed timeline. Henceforth why it says "legendary title". Not normal kingship. This is incredibly petty and silly. There was kings in Scandinavia long before it there were united countries, it almost feels like you're trying to erase that fact.
SergeWoodzing's fixation on trying to remove the concept of succession from the protohistoric discussion just isn't right. I have stated that there is a difference between normal kingship and legendary such. The ones that are featured on the pages where we have collided are not as part of the normal Swedish monarch tradition of succession as it's clearly shown to be part of the "legendary" prehistoric discussion hence why it's called "legendary title" when it comes to succession. By your logic you would literally have to go to every single legendary monarch page in Europe and remove all forms of succession from the legendary discussion.
You cannot shape the narrative of history just because you don't like it, that has nothing to do with warring. Stating that it would be warring is just trying to prevent other people from getting their opinions as to yours into the discussion. There was always a form of succession to these pages before you came along and no offense I'm not sure what your motive is as you aren't exactly elaborating. I won't undo what you've done further since i know you'll just throw a fit and i don't hate time for that, life is too short and Wikipedia is Wikipedia. Next time try to raise the discussion to a bit higher level instead of just getting mad and crying about me "warring" when you don't get as you want. It's childish and immature. -- Gaudi9223 ( talk) 14:45, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
I wonder why there is so much focus on Sigurd being a legendary Swedish king in the lead, when about 90% of the article is about him being king of Denmark or how he got to be a Danish king? People seems almost agitated when this is being questioned. Kisualk ( talk) 23:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Why bring in Uppland? Uppland is only attested from after the writing of the sagas, in 1296, when it is described as (j) þrim uplandæ folklandum meaning "in the three upland folklands" referring to Tiundaland, Attundaland and Fjädrundaland. And if someone is claiming that Sviþjóð meant "Uppland", he is free to point me to an Icelandic or Old Norse dictionary as reference. Our specialists on Old Norse at Uppsala University invariably translate the name as "Sweden" in the Scandinavian Runic-text Data Base.-- Berig ( talk) 22:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)