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The box on the right hand side mentions crusader victories in the Baltic. The main body of the article does not mention this. Is this really correct? (The Baltic seems a long way from the main action!)
SolarMcPanel (
talk) 22:32, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
94.171.230.254 (
talk) 22:30, 20 February 2012 (UTC)reply
It is mentioned in the section about the Wendish Crusade.
Adam Bishop (
talk) 23:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)reply
Is Nur al-Din the same as Nur ad-Din?
Is Nur al-Din the same as Nur ad-Din? the article refers to both of these people but they seem to be the same person. If so, which is the right spelling? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.168.240.85 (
talk) 01:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Actually both are correct, it's just that the Arabic definite article "al-" is pronounced differently if it's followed by certain letters, including D. In Arabic (and other languages that use the Arabic alphabet), this word for example is always spelled "al-Din", but it's pronounced "ad-Din". Sometimes the English spelling reflects the pronunciation change, depending on the
style of transliteration being used. Wikipedia's
manual of style suggests using "ad-Din", and personally I have always spelled his name "Nur ad-Din" here, but the rule is haphazardly enforced at best...
Adam Bishop (
talk) 08:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)reply
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The christians have expanded out of orient so its a muslim victories, your guys should wrote it ! — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
176.190.253.53 (
talk) 19:53, 29 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Decisive victory by Muslim forces is already written on the page. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
130.15.34.13 (
talk) 14:12, 27 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Read the article and check your spelling before you post, even more for an unnecessary comment.
Stephen of Blois (junior) was not in the Second Crusade
Stephen of Blois (senior) certainly participated in the First Crusade.
Stephen of Blois (junior) did not participate in the Second Crusade (as explained in the article). Hence, why is the second listed in the right column?
File:Byzantium1173.JPG is unsourced and terribly ugly. Commons says that this map "has been superseded by
File:Byzantium1173.svg" but that SVG map shows different borders (and is also unsourced). Which one is correct?
The Muslims won in the levant by retaining their territories in battles like Siege of Damascus and if you are doing Muslim or crusader victory then Mecklenburg shouldn’t be included because Muslims didn’t fight there.
Seljukjerusalem (
talk) 00:57, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Sockstrike☿
Apaugasma (
talk☉) 20:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Apologies for the question in my last edit summary - the word used in your actual edit was 'retrained', which confused me, but I see you meant 'retained' which makes sense. I'd be interested to hear what other contributors think about the changes Seljukjerusalem has proposed (see the last couple of edits).
GirthSummit (blether) 08:14, 30 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I'll add that I have no problem with the removal of the Mecklenburg section 'Result' field in the Infobox - Mecklenburg gets a single passing mention in the article, so it does seem odd to include it in the Infobox. If there was no territorial gain for either side in the Levant however, I'd have thought 'Status quo ante bellum' was correct.
GirthSummit (blether) 08:17, 30 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Girth Summit I think Mecklenburg should be removed. It is an area completely outside the fold/theatre of Muslim-Christian conflicts in contrast to Anatolia, Iberia, and the Levant. It already has its own page at
Wendish Crusade.
Noorullah (
talk) 20:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
As for the Levant, the Status quo ante bellum is fine as it is alongside the Zengid Military victory, no sides made territorial gains. (From what I know).
Noorullah (
talk) 20:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I have no objection to you removing it if that's what you think is best.
GirthSummit (blether) 11:37, 28 October 2023 (UTC)reply