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Just fixed the link to Tri-Creek District under the Simon Kenton Council (from www.tricreekdistrict.org to www.tricreek.org). The web address has been changed for a few years now.
isn't there enough info here to spin Greater Cleveland Council into its own article? (or maybe a tinnerman article) I'd like to add info on buckeye council, but a precedent needs set first, as to where this info goes. (personally, I'd rather omit info it's gonna be lumped into this huge 'scouting in ohio' article....)
Stuph 14:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)reply
same questiom regarding Seven Ranges and Camp McKinley. Why make one massive article when they can stand on their own??
No, there is not enough to make a separate Greater Cleveland Council article, and the Tinnerman article was merged in for that reason. The precedent is that in late January we lost some 50+ stubs because they were deemed non-notable, which is when we created the Scouting-by-state articles.
Your decision to add Buckeye Council information or not is your own, but the Scouting WikiProject already has guidelines on sub-council and council articles that are really stubs. We don't want 400+ little council articles just to lose them again. If a Buckeye Council article is created, and it is great from the start, I mean really good, photographs, history, at least a whole page and not just a list of troops, then it can stand on its own. If it is like Seven Ranges or Camp McKinley, which are neither large enough, detailed enough or comprehensive enough, nor particularly encyclopedic, to stand on their own, it will get merged back into the parent article.
Neither Seven Ranges or Camp McKinley are yet stand-alone articles, see second point, and this article is a good place for them to incubate until they are.
Chris is abosolutely right, they won't stand on their own as is and we'll lose them, which is one of the many reasons we went to "Scouting by state". Put them here for now and if you develop them into full fledged articles, not stubs, great and some knucklehead won't come by and afd them and a summary could be left here. I'm not sure which is our best standalone council/lodge, etc article to show as an example, but Chris probably knows.
Rlevse 01:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The best standalone council articles would be
Cradle of Liberty Council and
Chester County Council, all others have been or are stubs, and we really want to avoid 400+ council articles. For further documentation, see the top of [[Category:Boy Scouts of America Local Councils]]. There are no good standalone lodge articles, and only a handful of camps. Really, sub-council entities need to be under a parent council article, if anything.
Chris 02:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Historical council information to be folded in
Historical council information to be folded in. -
Kintetsubuffalo (
talk 19:47, 20 September 2006
Ohio 467 Zanesville 1919 1923 changed name to Muskingum County 467 1923
Ohio 442 Coshocton County 1922 1928 changed name to Kno-Co-Ho-Tus 442 1928
Ohio 467 Muskingum County 1923 1929 changed name to Zane Trace 467 1929
Ohio 442 Kno-Co-Ho-Tus Area 1928 1947 changed name to Tomahawk Area 442 1947
Ohio 442 Tomahawk Area 1947 1956 merged into Muskingum Valley 467 1956
Ohio 467 Zane Trace Area 1929 1956 merged into Muskingum Valley 467 1956
Ohio 467 Muskingum Valley 1956
information on historic councils
Should information on historic councils be in their own area (such as 1.1.1.1 Middletown / Mound Builders Area Council), or should they exist in the "History" section of the council in which they were merged into? My feeling is that if we were going to have edits that included information from many more former councils that have since been merged, then having a historic council section is needed. But if has been a couple of years and only Mound Builders has information, so would that best be moved to the History section of Dan Beard Council #438?
NINpigNIN (
talk) 14:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)reply
A neat and consistent format has not been developed. It would be good if the past councils that went into a current council were mentioned in the history section. --
evrik(
talk) 02:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)reply
page is hard to follow
This page is pretty hard to follow, with headings for Councils being the same weight as a heading for a camp or trail or list of districts. If more and more information is going to come into this one page instead of splitting individual councils into their own stub pages, is there a better way to group council and their information to make the page easier to read?
NINpigNIN (
talk) 17:15, 24 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Pioneer Scout Reservation does not appear notable without the Erie Shores Council. Should be merged under the Erie Shores Council header. DeflagroContribs/Talk 22:08, 2 May 2016 (UTC)reply
For
Pioneer Scout Reservation, the only things that could be kept would be "The Richard P. Anderson Pioneer Scout Reservation also known as Pioneer Scout Reservation (PSR) and Camp Frontier was opened in 1969 by Erie Shores Council. It is a boyscout camp in northwest Ohio and southeast Michigan just west of Pioneer, Ohio. The camp has three lakes, Lake Spieker (which is where the lakefront is), Lake MacNichol, and Lake Teagarden." The rest is a list of buildings on camp and advertising (ex: "which is very popular and one of the best programs in the area." "The aquatics program is one of the biggest and most popular programs in camp." "The lakefront is where scouts can swim from 3:00 to 5:00 in open swim." The only reference is a link to the camp's website. I think this is an example of a stub that should be merged until someone wants to take the time to find sources and make it a standalone article again.
DeflagroContribs/Talk 20:55, 5 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The three councils will be the
Great Trail Council, encompassing Warren, Youngstown and Akron; the
Buckeye Council, which includes the Marion / Mansfield area to the eastern border of Ohio; and a new, yet to be named council (
Lake Erie Council) along Lake Erie from Ashtabula County to Erie County, including Cleveland.
"Boy Scout councils merge". Tribune Chronicle. 2017-01-02.