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This article lacks parity with the article Deaths in 2012, which gives his date of death as June 6 - here, the date of his death is given as June 5. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, and this website:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57448127-10391698/ray-bradbury-dead-at-91/
gives the date of his death as "Tuesday night", which would have been June 5. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 15:52, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
So the Deaths in 2012 needs to be changed to June 5th. I've changed it there. WeatherExperiment ( talk) 16:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone think the original 1975 image would be better? He's still recognizable as Bradbury but it's professionally taken (I.E. he's posing for the camera and smiling) and it looks a bit better than the one one from 2009.-- CyberGhostface ( talk)
The section entitled "Critical Reception" states that "[c]ritical opinion of Bradbury's work is sharply divided." However, this section only cites two critics. One, Christopher Isherwood, is a highly reputed mainstream critic. While the other critic cited, Damon Knight, is also highly regarded, he is also notorious as a contrarian who holds opinions unique to himself, and was a rival science fiction writer. You may recall him from "To Serve Man," you know, "it's a COOKBOOK."
I do not believe this section accurately represents the real critical response to Bradbury, which is nearly uniformly positive. The consensus is that Bradbury is one of the greatest authors of science fiction and fantasy. It is only sharply divided between generally recognized literary critics, and a couple outliers. I'm not saying Damon Knight's opinion has no value, but it certainly does not represent a sizable camp.
I just noticed I dumped this into a section for issues from 2008. If someone really wants to create a 2011 section, knock yourself out. I don't feel it's a burning issue to me, I just think it should probably be resolved sometime within our lifetimes. Muldrake ( talk) 23:27, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I quickly created the template for Ray Bradbury based on the one I set up for Cormac McCarthy and others. It needs to be fleshed out some more but I don't have the time right now. You can edit it at Template:Ray Bradbury. Remember ( talk) 01:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Good to work this source in: "Ray Bradbury, science fiction writer, was grounded in Los Angeles"(mercurywoodrose) 75.61.135.189 ( talk) 03:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I think we need some effort to document whether he did in fact help create the phrase Butterfly effect with his story A Sound of Thunder. the article on the effect seems to say he borrowed the idea from earlier writing. i think he was the first to use the butterfly as an example. prove me wrong.(mercurywoodrose) 75.61.135.189 ( talk) 03:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
According to a blog, he could do seven rewrites od a story; "Bradbury writes that he typically does seven rewrites of a story. This, of course, was before word processors, so he just didn’t edit a story, he started at the beginning and wrote the story again. He had the advantage of being able to borrow words, phrases and even paragraphs from the previous versions, but each rewrite was a creative experience where he would extend or compress or explore the story in a different way. Bradbury also wrote that he sometimes writes a story in a fever, puts it in an envelope and mails it out immediately on finishing. He doesn’t say which method produces the best stories." Since this is from a blog, the source is usually not seen as good enoug for Wikipedia, but the info seems to come from Bradbury's book "Zen in the Art of Writing." Just in case someone owns the book. 84.210.17.201 ( talk) 11:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
The article lists the name as given in this WP entry. However, though this matches my personal memories (of little interest to other editors and none to WP), it does not match the history page of the "Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society" which claims to have been the source of the handbill. I added a note to the text, as the article redirects to the current LASFS article. User talk:Unfriend12 18:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
The article says that he died during the transit of Venus, and there is a reference. However, a source I found says that he died in the morning and the transit didn't start until 3:09PM in his time zone. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate that Bradbury wrote science fiction, but the article calls his death a "coincidence" with a Venus transit, which might suggest he was quite interested in astronomy or observing these kinds of things. Is this true? Just wondering. -- Ds13 ( talk) 03:37, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I don't think it's worth noting it's a coincidence... after all, what else would it be? Nonetheless, I think the transit of Venus is rare enough that it's simply good writing to note the fact (but omitting the word "coincidentally"). For example, if he was born on a Leap Day, we'd note it, even though that happens far more often and is not really significant in any way for most people. -- C S ( talk) 06:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Including the Venus transit without a reliable (read: non-blog) source is basically original research, putting weight on the coincidence. If other reliable sources go "hey, look at this... " we can talk about how others noted this coincidence, but we as WP editors cannot make the connection. -- MASEM ( t) 16:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Self disclosure: I grew up on Ray Bradbury science fiction, and I also studied orbital mechanics during middle school some 45+ years ago. I can't blame most editors for assuming that Bradbury's death during a transit of Venus is nothing more than a trivial coincidence. However, it is not trivia, and not merely a coincidence. It is sublimely profound.
One of Bradbury's most famous short stories All Summer in a Day is about a rare celestial event in which the Sun is only visible on Venus for 2 hours every 7 years. Here we have Bradbury himself leaving this Earth during an event that is "among the rarest of predictable astronomical phenomena" (quoting Transit of Venus), something that only happens for a few hours twice each 113 years, but likewise involving the Sun and Venus.
But it's more profound than that. The reason transits of Venus are so rare is that it requires both Venus and Earth to simultaneously be at very specific points in the Solar System. Earth and Venus both orbit the Sun, but on slightly different planes. The two orbital planes intersect along a single straight line passing through the Sun's center of gravity. For a transit of Venus to happen, both Earth and Venus must happen to pass through that line at the same time, and they must do so on the same side of the Sun (not on opposite sides of the Solar System, where they would be invisible to each other because of the Sun between them).
So not only did Bradbury die at a very specific moment in time, he died at a very specific place in the Solar System (along the line of intersection of Venus/Earth orbital planes).
But it's even more profound than that. The reason transits of Venus occur in a 243-year cycle is because "the periodicity is a reflection of the fact that the orbital periods of Earth and Venus are close to 8:13 and 243:395 commensurabilities" (again quoting Transit of Venus). This commensurability is the reason the orbits of Venus and Earth are stable with respect to each other. If Venus orbited in a larger or smaller ellipse, then it would destabilize Earth's orbit until the two orbits adjusted to some other commensurability, and Earth would end up in a different orbit, either closer to the Sun or farther away, and our years would no longer be 365.25 days long. Venus and Earth, though a great distance apart, are inexorably connected through their orbital commensurability.
Knowing Ray Bradbury's work as I do, I am absolutely certain he appreciated as I do just how special a transit of Venus really is, both in time and in place. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have wanted his death during a transit of Venus to be mentioned in his article. It is a sublimely profound conjunction among the Sun, Venus, Earth and the arc of his life. -- Art Smart Chart/ Heart 02:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed it, in keeping with wp:MOS, wp:lead. If it is a widely used quote, it should have a source, and perhaps add it to wikiquote. Or perhaps it belongs in the body with a tie-in to that section of the prose. User talk:Unfriend12 02:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
This seems to be another departure from wp:MOS. I am moving this to a new SA section and think it should stay there unless someone knows of a reason this should be in the lead... and... seriously... an eponymous story collection is something that someone is going to ... confused with the author? By anyone able to read WP? User talk:Unfriend12 02:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I killed it before... this time I just moved it out of the awards and honors (it isn't), and tagged it. I think it needs to go. Unless someone has a reason for inclusion, I'll kill it again eventually. User talk:Unfriend12 01:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I have removed this twice, and expect to continue to remove it. If there is some content there that needs to be incorporated into the article, and if it meets wp:RS, then the content needs to be added, with the article as a source. User talk:Unfriend12 18:16, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
I was watching an interview of Bradbury: Day at Night - Ray Bradbury. In this interview Bradbury said that it was Blackstone not Electrico who told him to live forever. I was wondering if this is an error on the article not. Could someone clear this up for me please? 68.115.195.222 ( talk) 20:43, 19 November 2012 (UTC)guineandrummerboy
The archive search hits no substantial mention of pseudonyms.
Ray Bradbury at ISFDB lists 11 alternate names including nine that are pseudonyms rather than variants. Here are the nine with hasty notes that count ISFDB listings for the pseudonym as author. ("story" means publication)
The article now uses 'pseudonym' twice, both re "Green Town" as "the pseudonym for his hometown".
My WP:COMMENTs in the template {{ infobox writer}} and {{ persondata}} code note that ISFDB lists several pseudonyms.
-- P64 ( talk) 18:43, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
ISFDB lists eight substantially Alternate Names, with nine works credited to them, iicc. There are three credits for Guy Amory (1939 and 1940), two for Ron Reynolds, one or none for the others.
We now give no pseudonym= in {{ Infobox writer}}. That may be reasonable considering how little Bradbury's pseudonyms were used. Perhaps some annotation, eg "Several before YYYY[1]" with formal reference to ISFDB.
And none in template {{ Persondata}}, which holds hidden Metadata --that is, no ALTERNATIVE NAMES value except "Bradbury, Ray Douglas (full name)"
I have not checked our prose coverage. -- P64 ( talk) 02:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
These sections seem very strangely balanced for a writer widely considered one of the most influential of the twentieth century. Surely there must be more writers out there who acknowledge Ray Bradbury's influence on their works. — Dfeuer ( talk) 18:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Paris Review
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).My first experience of real horror came at the hands of Ray Bradbury.
The current owner of the body of work created by Bradbury wrote to suggest that the entry:
Bradbury's personal library was willed to the Waukegan Public Library, where he had many of his formative reading experiences.
needs correction.
The issue is whether it is clear that the donation was of books owned by Bradbury, not books written by Bradbury (with the exception of some foreign language editions)
I think it is clear that the term "personal library" means books owned by Bradbury, but does not imply the donation of the books written by Bradbury, but I can image that some might misread it.
Does anyone else think it needs clarification? If so, feel free to come up with better wording-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 15:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
This article needs a "Critical assessement" section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.242.246 ( talk) 01:11, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
• Sbmeirow • Talk • 11:19, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
I agree that "Bradbury was one of the most celebrated 20th-century American writers" - but Wikipedia requires verification for such statements. Can some-one living in America please go down to a library and get a good citation from one of the many literature reference works that substantiate this statement? Kdammers ( talk) 06:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
About a dozen Americans received the Nobel Prize for Literature in the twentieth century. Vladimir Nabokov wrote some of the best novels in both English and Russian during the same time period and became an international celebrity, as did Kurt Vonnegut and many other American novelists, poets and playwrights from at least the 1920s on. Bradbury was essentially a pulp writer who collected his stories in a few popular volumes and wrote a novel that became a moderately successful movie. Thereafter he found himself positioned to be marketed as the foremost American SF/fantasy author who "wrote well." His serious literary reputation is nil, but he did live long enough to pick up those extremely assorted "honors", especially after turning 80. No doubt Laura Bush considers him an important addition to American letters. The reference to his work on "It Came from Outer Space" as a primary part of his oeuvre is such a hoot that I'm almost tempted to recommend leaving it in as is,where is. Otherwise, the page is disastrously repetitive, uncritical and gushing. Maybe appropriate that it reads like a piece of hackneyed homage. Did you mention Berenson? Might want to throw that in for that extra touch of class. Along with the LA streetcorner. 68.178.50.46 ( talk) 02:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC) Probably overstated my case earlier. Bradbury did write some great short stories, especially in his early career and it is probably safe to say that his literary reputation lies there, before he was overcome by overpraise and sentimentality. How about a section on the short stories written by some competent contributor? After all the repetitious drek has been cut down. Also a link to the 1950-51 Dimension X radio adaptations, which featured Bradbury and Vonnegut stories. I am looking for material on the early relationship of these two writers, but evidence is sparse so far. 68.178.50.46 ( talk) 18:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
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I find it unlikely that statements "father was English descent" and "descended from Mary Bradbury" make sense at the same time. According the article of Mary Bradbury "In 1636 she married Thomas Bradbury of Salisbury, Massachusetts, considered one of its most distinguished citizens". So, that is where the name comes from? Pretty distant English descent. 85.76.140.76 ( talk) 04:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
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http://diginole.lib.fsu.edu/islandora/object/fsu:168044/datastream/PDF/view -- occono ( talk) 20:42, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
There's no free download visible there these days. Maybe I just can't see it: [2]. Yury Tarasievich ( talk) 20:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC)