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Since Qasim Barid I was the soveriegn of an independent state there should be no argument on his inclusion. Johnpacklambert ( talk) 22:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC) reply

i have added a new refernce klick on the page and go down 1 page and read on factionalism and divison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.26.192 ( talk) 13:32, 14 October 2014 (UTC) reply

There are different references claiming different things. A person cannot be a Turk of "Hungarian descent" ... was he captured and pressed into Ottoman service? If so, how did he come to arrive in Central Asia? The citation of the "notes" claiming Hungarian origin is unreachable and was not archived by the editor who used it. IMO, the best course would be just to remove the "Hungarian descent" statement until a more stable source can be found. Anyone with a different opinion? Magyars and Turks are different nationalities. 50.111.61.157 ( talk) 00:23, 24 January 2019 (UTC) reply