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This text was originally located at Support and opposition for the U.S. plan to invade Iraq. A complete history for the text may be found there. - Montréalais 05:03 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)
This needs to be fleshed out and wikified. Use full names, not just "Saddam". -- Zoe
Right now, I'm just cutting and pasting from the full Support and Opposition article. I could use some help polishing each resulting segment. - Montréalais
Is an encyclopedia really the right place for what thematically is a recording of an op-ed article ? Also, shouldn't such articles be added in retrospect if at all ?
Ideally, this piece should be a part of "American history in early 21st century" or "Iraq War : 2003"(should it occur). -- Gyan
I renamed the article from "war on" Iraq to "invasion of" Iraq for two reasons:
Sort of covered in other articles, but why not have Iraqi popular opinion of invasion of Iraq? The rest of the world's opinion seems adequately covered in other articles.
Apparently people don't even think this article is valid. I know I'd like a clear, NPOV account of how Iraqis feel about being "liberated", though. Iraqi resistance#Analysis and polls has some info. - Omegatron 21:01, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
Is there an article which deals with the US military opinon, or is there an intentions to address the question in this one ? I think that with Anthony Zinni, Karen_Kwiatkowski, the recent stories about Rumsfled and humvees, there is something to talk about... Cheers ! Rama 11:05, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The following quote is taken out of context: On the 16th of June 2005, Foxnews editorialist John Gibson aknowledged that " Bush's support for the war is falling off like leaves in autumn" [1].
If you read the article, Gibson is stating not that popular support for Bush's war is falling, but that Bush's support for the war is falling. While it may be true that fewer and fewer Americans support the war, Gibson did not make that point in that editorial. He was lamenting President Bush's failure to more strenuously defend the rightness of the war.
-- Henrybaker 21:17, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Rama, nowhere in the article, before or after the statement in question, does Gibson talk about US popular support for the war. The quote is at best ambiguous, more likely taken out of context. This is not professional behaviour for an encyclopedia or any intellectual excercise. -- Henrybaker 00:35, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
"But Bush's support for the war is falling off like leaves in autumn. And that shouldn't be. He should be able to articulate the reasons we're there without sounding like a broken record. He should be able to say why we'll stay a certain length of time — long enough for them to get ready to protect themselves — and then if they seem like they will fail forever, we'll probably have to go, and say, "Hey, we gave it a good shot." "
Do you really think the line that you quoted is about Public Opinion? It is clearly not. Rama, it is unprofessional, at any level of academia, to take a quote out of context like that. -- Henrybaker 16:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
There is no "popular opinion" on the Invasion of Iraq, and I doubt there ever will be. Until someone can show other than a few media polls, I can't find the notability of this article, other than it trying to push a political view. Putting up for DR. -- Mrmiscellanious 01:21, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
{{ POV-check}}
The article is of a very low quality. Filled with unsubstantiated and uncited polls and many vague (and in the context quite useless) snippets like "some polls", "other polls showed", "most polls showed", "a consistent pattern", etc. The uncited polls should be removed and the vague, the "hearsay" tone of "some" and "most" cleaned up.
I updated the intro to contain polls through May of 2007 using the Associated Press-Ipsos and a CNN poll in order to maintain a neutral point of view -- Orcasgirl 23:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
According to a Harris Poll released July 21 found that 50% of U.S. respondents said they believe Iraq had the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003. This was reported in numerous news articles, such as The State ( http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/nation/15215272.htm) and The Washington Post ( http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2006/08/do_you_believe_in_wmd.html). PJ 06:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
It seems like this article should be retitled American public opinion of Iraq war. Public would replace popular, as I think "public opinion poll" is a far more common usage than "popular opinion poll". Popular has several other connotations (as in populist, or something that people generally favor) that I don't think are intended here. Iraq war would replace invasion of Iraq, since the polls in this article cover the entire war, both invasion and occupation. I think there is a fairly consistent split on the Iraq war articles between those two phases of the war, with the title "Iraq war" encompassing both pieces. Does anyone object to my retitling the article? Thanks. -- Mackabean 00:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I do not have a problem with replacing the term public for popular though. Orcasgirl 21:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
(which we could link to, of course). Nishspeak 04:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I Agree renaming the article to American public opinion of Iraq war is a good idea because popular seams like the social latter idea -- Jeffrd10 ( talk) 13:18, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I deleted this sentence- They did this without thinking about the consequences the war might have on Iraq's Christian communities (Armenian, Assyrian, Chaldean), let alone of course, every other community- due to flagrant bias and it being an unverifiable claim. 81.90.21.125 00:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
A graph aggregating the various polls showing change over time would be fantastic here! -- Ephilei 01:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
This source contains no poll from 2003: An ABC News/Washington Post poll taken after the beginning of the war showed a 62% support for the war, lower than the 79% in favor at the beginning of the Persian Gulf War.[2]
The article basically ends almost a decade ago. I found a bit of newer data here: http://www.people-press.org/2014/01/30/more-now-see-failure-than-success-in-iraq-afghanistan/#more-say-u-s-has-failed-than-succeeded-in-achieving-iraq-goals Should it be added? Too busy to do it myself. HCA ( talk) 18:07, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
I think more recent data should be added for the 10 year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. In 2013-2014, President Obama fulfilled his promise of pulling US troops out of the area. Based on this decision, I found a source from the Pew Research center that polled citizens asking if they felt the war was a success. The poll showed an all time low (52%) that the invasion was not successful and failed to achieve the goals the US set out to accomplish. This attitude could be a direct result from an authoritative government rising up and the early beginnings of ISIS.
Source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/12/more-americans-say-us-failed-to-achieve-its-goals-in-iraq/ Kfill ( talk) 18:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
The Structure of the Article is pretty good as the headings are clear and show what is in each section. The exception to this is the heading "The Change" which is too broad and confusing. Something like The flip in Opinion on the war or something like that I feel would be better. In the lead section the last few sentences which show polling data is that should probably be in the body of the article.
Some of the Polling data seems to be misrepresented in the article. For example in the January 2003 section the UN poll that is referred to as showing that "Approximately two-thirds of respondents wanted the government to wait for the UN inspections to end" is incorrect. The Poll actually say that nearly 2 thirds (63%) support diplomatic solutions now instead of military ones, not that they want are just wanting to see the U.N. report and then decide. While small, it is still inaccurate and should be fixed.
Some of the sources seem to be too old or broken links, some even use the wayback machine to access pages and information. These sources need to be updated but it might be difficult to find old news articles that aren't behind pay walls or on databases. There are also several places needing citations but many already have the need citation subscript but not all.
The good news it seems that everyone of the talk page is realistic about the articles problems and are working to make positive changes. I agree that adding a graph showing the change overtime could be very useful and enhance the article heavily as most users don't read a fully article and often only read lead sections and look at photos as they scroll throw. It would be a great, quick and easy way to dispense the information. I trust the article will be better soon and good luck! Sean Ruddy ( talk) 17:35, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
"In March 1992, 55% of Americans said they would support sending American troops back to the Persian Gulf to remove Saddam Hussein from power" the referenced archived source does not seem to contain anything to support this sentence
Aisleway ( talk) 04:10, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Is it only for the United States as a whole or anything within the United States Hikeddeck ( talk) 03:55, 28 November 2022 (UTC)