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As muhc as Mensalão should be mentioned only in its on artcile, Palocci should be mentioned only whithin his own article. One of Anyway, Jefferson´s main issue is the mensalão, so it should remain there.
Lulu Margaridayes? 17:09, 15 October 2007 (UTC)reply
You're talking about succession. You wouldn't mention that George W. Bush succeeded Bill Clinton in the Bill Clinton article? usually that's done through a succession box, but we don't have one in this case.--
Dali-Llama 17:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)reply
YOU are talkng abt succession, doesn´t matter who came after or before; maybe you should insert a box then.
Lulu Margaridayes? 17:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)reply
Well, we're talking about succession. I can't believe you're opposed to saying who replaced Malan as minister of finance... You want to create a box, go ahead, but I don't want to take that project up. Until we have the box, we can leave the succession blurb.--
Dali-Llama 17:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)reply
The article´s title is Pedro Malan and his biography, not Lula nor Palocci nor who succeeded Malan.
Lulu Margaridayes? 16:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
This is bordering on non-sensical now. You're actually saying we shouldn't say why the minister of finance of a country left and who replaced him?--
Dali-Llama 18:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
This seems absolutely straightforward to me--in the absence of a succession box for this particular job (minister of finance for Brazil), we should state in prose in the article who succeeded him and why (after all, he wasn't fired--a new administration came in).--
Dali-Llama 18:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
You can mention succession, but not within the text. Why don´t you build the box?
Lulu Margaridayes? 18:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
It's an inordinate amount of work to build the box, since the Ministry of finance has all the names of the ministers in a list and I'd have to format it all to wiki text, and it's one of my projects to do in the future. In the meantime, can you cite a specific policy which adding this would run afoul of? I can't imagine anyone not agreeing to include that until the box is created.--
Dali-Llama 18:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
it´s another adm., don´t think it´s necessary to mention ouside of a box.
Lulu Margaridayes? 19:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
I was reading Palocci´s article and...will you mention who came before and after? What abt Guido Mantega, Zelia Cardoso, Marcílio Marques,...will you mention who came BEFORE MALAN --was it FHC?
Lulu Margaridayes? 19:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
Jesus, you keep thinking this is a conspiracy and that I'm trying to push some obscure POV... Add who came after (and who came before, actually) to any article you'd like that doesn't have a box.--
Dali-Llama 19:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
No, I´m just saying you should mention that --not only on his artcile and not only a Lula successor. Just wondering why don´t you mention who came BEFORE, someone not realted to Lula. That´s what I find a POV. Pls I don´t want to make it personal, don´t refer to me, pls!, only to the artcile. As much as you think I must mention each of his jobs, I think you must mention who came before.
Lulu Margaridayes? 19:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)reply
3rd Opinion comment
I can see the problem you two are having. There are arguments in favour of mentioning succession, and arguments against. It is appropriate that you are having a discussion to discover a solution - and it appears that the succession box is one you are agreed is the most appropriate solution. But you are both held back by the possible work involved. I have taken a look at how to create a succession box, and it shouldn't be too difficult
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