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Can I ask why important information, besides a reference that I put in, removed? It's not unanimous that this cat was a subspecies of Panthera leo. Leo1pard ( talk) 12:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
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Leo1pard ( talk) 04:09, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
See this for more details. Leo1pard ( talk) 04:09, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
BD2412 Panthera leo spelaea has been renamed Panthera spelaea, but is this page not going to be changed now, considering issues like the evolutionary link between spelaea and fossilis, as stated by sources like these? [1] [2] If we leave this as it is, even though the article on spelaea has been renamed, then it may give people the impression that the Eurasian cave lion was initially a subspecies (Panthera leo fossilis) of lions (Panthera leo) that evolved into a different species ( Panthera spelaea), before going extinct. Leo1pard ( talk) 13:33, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Before moving or renaming this article, I suggest to first figure out whether it is now considered a species Panthera fossilis as suggested by Sabol (2014) or a subspecies of spelaea. -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 15:17, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Please see this. Leo1pard ( talk) 09:59, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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I second this idea. They aren't Panthera leo according to the recent studies posted in the article. Fossilis is considered to have evolved into Spalea. @ Leo1pard and BhagyaMani: Tijkil ( talk) 10:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Okay so I want to know for what reason you're rejecting evidences for the Panthera fossilis name. The reference links I shared has already been accepted in P.spelaea and P.atrox pages. [1] [2] [3] Ishan87 ( talk) 23:28, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24382145/ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1749-4877.12082 Ishan87 ( talk) 23:28, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
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Why did silver tiger remove my edit of adding another name "mosbach lion" Razeangst ( talk) 18:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
It is the more public name instead of authors, the people use mosbach lion more and the steppe lion source is absolutely wrong, you can see YouTube if you want to mosbach lion is the only name they use, steppe is reserved for only and only the Eurasian cave lion Razeangst ( talk) 06:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Ik that smart guy, it was to show you what the more common name is, instead of seeing 2 or 3 others opinions, see th majority moshach is used more than steppe and steppe is only for the Eurasian cave lion you have misunderstood the author and you can see it for yourself all over the internet what the general public uses those names for Razeangst ( talk) 13:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
That is the point of the sentence "also known as" Because everyone calls it that, you can't change the fact it is called that even if it is wrong, you don't need a source for that like the sentence speaks for itself,for example if someone comes after seeing this name and searches for it, he can see that the name is used for what otherwise, he will just be confused because everyone is calling it that and he cannot find what it actually is, if we mention that people also call it that name the person cam easily identify what it actually is. Razeangst ( talk) 17:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
And also every lion can bro called primitive,it is not a name for a particular species, genus or subspecies rather an adjective perhaps for particular types of lions Razeangst ( talk) 17:22, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
And also you have definitely misunderstood the author, any sensible author wouldn't call panthera fossilis stepe lion or cave lion,they must be refering to the Eurasian cave lion which they think the Mosbach lion is a subspecies of. Razeangst ( talk) 17:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Ugh leave this man I don't wanna edit this page anymore even though I was giving explainations, they gave me 2 warnings for Vandalisim alone on this page, just leave it now do whatever you want idc bout this page anymore tbh. Razeangst ( talk) 17:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
And one last thing the authors are probably sensible you just polly got confused between Eurasiun cave lion and this panthera fossilis and also I added the info with it speaks for itself part, it was just to give you better understanding ik the info is needed Razeangst ( talk) 17:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Yeah ok man leave it idc bout this page anymore just do what you feel like I am out and also I gave explainations I didn't do it without any context so I think it is not vandalism like how people delte entire articles but whatever let it be Razeangst ( talk) 17:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
And the you don't need the source for that was about basic understanding of a normal english sentence that you don't need a source to understand basic English bruv cmon Razeangst ( talk) 17:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)