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What description should in the article in the lead.
Shrike ( talk) 18:28, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Times of Israel: "Maasarwe — who has asked local media to spell his daughter’s name as “Aya” instead of “Aiia” as stated in her passport to reflect that she is a Palestinian of Israeli citizenship — is set to return to Israel with her body."
SBS: "The family has contacted media organisations asking for the spelling of the name to be changed to Aya, instead of Aiia - which police had been using based on her passport information - to reflect their wish for her to be identified as Palestinian."
nableezy - 20:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
"It was also a reminder of how news reports can erase Palestinians so easily, with multiple Australian media outlets describing 21-year-old Maasarwe as Israeli or Arab-Israeli,... Several Australian media outlets showed that by using Israel’s official terminologies ... "[1] - so Khalik wrote an op-ed to complain how most outlets covered this - without Palestinian. To this we have WP:BLP concerns - Maasarwe is covered by WP:BDP and we don't known how all of her family relates (we do know of some). In most of the world, being Palestinian, Israeli, or any other ethnicity is of little concern - beyond a regular bio detail. In Israel - a state that per the Palestinian leadership:
Israel has chosen to make it a year of a new war of genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian people( Mahmoud Abbas, September 2014, TOI AJ) - identification as Palestinian (a choice that some, but far from all, Israeli-Arabs make) - is a rather serious political statement. We should be exceedingly careful with this label. Icewhiz ( talk) 19:17, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Here is an impartial view. She was a Palestinian Arab of Israeli citizenship [2] but obviously, she was an Israeli also. Both descriptions of her status are true and correct. However, taking into consideration the overall situation in the region and sensitivity of the matter, her Palestinian identity should be recorded in the lead of the article. GizzyCatBella ( talk) 03:56, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
In most modern-day cases". This is clearly not most, since the evidence we have is this is not how the person identified and so it would be offensive for us to do so. Nil Einne ( talk) 09:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Piping links to rejected titles is a POV issue. By all means, note self-identity later (as at Haneen Zoabi). ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 16:50, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Um, Icewhiz, what exactly are the grave BLP concerns? Calling a Palestinian a Palestinian when they want to be called a Palestinian is a BLP violation? The NYTimes cite you use says the following: At the vigil, many people wore black at the organizers’ request, and they remained largely silent to respect the wishes of Ms. Maasarwe’s family. They are from Baqa al-Gharbiyye, a predominantly Arab city in the north of Israel, and identify as Palestinian. As far as CNN, and thanks for having me look, they also call her Palestinian. So too does News.com.au. nableezy - 19:28, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
I find this thread distasteful. This girl’s life and death has nothing to do with the conflict, yet here we are stuck in a political debate. Sometimes self-control is the best path for us - we don’t need to fight this every time. Let’s please try to avoid adding to the family’s trauma. Onceinawhile ( talk) 09:25, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
The family has contacted media organisations asking for the spelling of the name to be changed to Aya, instead of Aiia - which police had been using based on her passport information - to reflect their wish for her to be identified as Palestinian.). Given that a large number of reliable sources have gone along with this, it seems absurd to suggest that there is anything "astounding" about it. When someone self-identifies as a "Palestinian Arab with Israeli citizenship" or words to that effect, obviously the concern you're describing disappears; and we can see from the large number of news articles that reflected that self-identification (eg. here) that your concerns here are misplaced. Nationality and identification are complicated subjects, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is itself a fraught topic; in situations like this it's best to go with the subject's self-identification as much as possible, at least when we have many reliable sources doing the same. -- Aquillion ( talk) 06:07, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
"You want to label a person an Israeli when their family expressly rejects the label."Several sources call them Israeli (without Arab nor Palestinian). They are Israeli citizens. No source has beeb presented showing they rejected being Israeli (the father's political preference for Palestinian as ethnicity is not an indication he rejects being Israeli). Icewhiz ( talk) 17:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
nableezy - 18:17, 2 February 2019 (UTC)The 21-year-old was Palestinian, yet because of the title of her passport, she was described in news reports as Israeli or Arab-Israeli — terms she and her family, like many Palestinians, reject.
They're showing the verdict against Cody Hermann on 9 News now and the chyron is spelling her name as Aiia. Heepman1997 ( talk) 05:34, 29 October 2019 (UTC) P.S. Aiia may have spelled her own name in English as Aya, but the Aiia spelling is the most common in Australia.