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needs wikification, and tone cleanup. at the moment it reads like a metacognition is the best thing since sliced bread. Zeimusu | Talk page 09:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
the introductory section is still far too long and contains several errors. regarding the content, i feel the emphasis on the role of metacognition in learning is over-emphasized, or at least introduced too soon: i think the concept should be introduced first without bringing up its utility in the learning process in the same breath. also still needs to shift its tone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.109.183.207 ( talk) 17:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
Under "Linkage to Intelligence," I deleted the final sentence for what I claim are obvious reasons. It read "Well i think metacognition is knowing how you know what you know." Perhaps someone more qualified could turn that assertion into something sensible and well-explained and add it back to the section.
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Based on the New Scientist article. It's all new to me, so I am not going to change anything else. -- GwydionM 19:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
The material on metacognition is messy. DBSBHAT ( talk) 05:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Metacognition is the knowledge (i.e. awareness) of one's cognitive processes and the efficient use of this self-awareness to self-regulate these cognitive processes (e.g. Brown, 1987; Niemi, 2002; Shimamura, 2000). and random pointless stuff.
References
Brown, A. (1987). Metacognition, excutive control, self control, and other mystrious mechanisms. In F. Weinert and R. Kluwe (Eds.), Metacognition, Motivation, and Understanding (pp. 65-116). Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum.
Niemi, H. (2002) Active learning--a cultural change needed in teacher education and schools. Teaching and Teacher Education, 18, 763-780.
Shimamura, A. P. (2000). Toward a cognitive neuroscience of metacognition. Consciousness and Cognition, 9, 313-323. DBSBHAT ( talk) 05:28, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
This sentence is too broken for me to understand the original meaning:
Much of the existing research on metacognition, at least in the domain of experimental psychology, has and cognition work (which are frequently incorrect).
in "Linkage to Intelligence" 202.220.175.152 ( talk) 12:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be mention of spiritual stuff like meditation and so on which is only achieved by becoming conscious of ones thoughts? Th1alb ( talk) 23:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, mindfulness, and other meditative techniques that involve observing the mental and emotional "traffic" of ones subjective experience, are all forms of metacognition. The question is, do we want to add this aspect of knowledge to this wiki article, or do we prefer it remain as it is at this point? AgentSmith 20:27, 20 March 2012 (NZT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.197.103 ( talk)
This site http://metacognitionesf.free.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=39 refers to (Smith et al., 2003), saying that they found Metacognition in birds. Anyone know about it? Showerplay ( talk) 09:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
This section -- "The theory that metacognition has a critical role to play in successful learning means it is important that it be demonstrated by both students and teachers. Students who demonstrate a wide range of metacognitive skills perform better on exams and complete work more efficiently. They are self-regulated learners who utilize the "right tool for the job" and modify learning strategies and skills based on their awareness of effectiveness. Individuals with a high level of metacognitive knowledge and skill identify blocks to learning as early as possible and change "tools" or strategies to ensure goal attainment. Metacognologists are aware of their own strengths and weaknesses, the nature of the task at hand, and available "tools" or skills. A broader repertoire of "tools" also assists in goal attainment. When "tools" are general, generic, and context independent, they are more likely to be useful in different types of learning situations." -- could be improved.
Small point: I don't think that "theory" "The theory that ..." etc is the right word here. It's really a belief, or an assertion.
Large point (related to small point): this is clear something that is believed by some people, but as it stands, it is just an assertion. It either needs to be modifed to read something like "Some people believe that ...", or it needs some citations to sources of evidence.
Doug1943 ( talk) 14:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I have just finished my masters in psych, and during the past two years have attempted to create a "highly-rounded," well, metacognition of metacognition:
Cognition commonly describes a small "piece of information" (such as in recognition) or a minor awareness or understanding (such as in cognizance). The term is used widely in relation to "behavior" such as in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, or CBT, and is also used to describe related mental functions in neurology.
What is important in this context is that modern cognitive and ancient dialect are interchangeable as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is affirmed as a "Socratic dialog." An important example is the CBT offshoot, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy used to treat so-called borderline personality disorder, which substitutes cognition with the dialectic--a ancient non-democratic (and hence oligarchic) method of deceptive teaching which is the cornerstone of Western Civilization. (Other closely-related variations are probably cornerstones of other civilizations, such as Confucius' didactic dialog.)
Using metaphysical as an example, "meta" means "super," and since physical means nature in the ancient context, metaphysical means supernatural, which, today, means paranormal. A meta-study, as another example of "meta," combines data from a collection of research projects, or a super study, perhaps better described with the German "uber." So a metacognition is a set of cogntions, often implanted or "introjected" by others such as parents and teachers (from Carl Rogers) to be organized such that it resembles what is perceived as reality, but is an alternative, as alternative ideas are the core of the Socratic dialog.
What is also important to understanding metacognition, is that many, if not most, metacogntions are not dialectic. They are seemingly natural adaptations to difficult situations where we "repaint" the picture of a reality (or perception) that is difficult to deal with so as to create an alternate reality (as in the Socratic method) that is much more pleasant, or at least easier to cope with. One "paints a pretty picture" of a recurring bad situation, which may include a "difficult" person's personality, so as to make life easier to approach in a cooperative manner. This, of course, is not reality; it is fantasy and thus an obvious problem arises: because one believes a fantasy, one is making decisions based on fantasy and not reality, and it is reasonable to assume that at a certain point, reality will come due, and when it does, it tends to come quickly and with bad effects. -- John Bessa ( talk) 13:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
I am planning on improving the quality of the article in the next few months or so. Suggestions, feedback and ideas are most welcome, and I must note that this project will likely take quite a while.
This article suffers from outdated hypotheses, internal inconsistencies (it proposes two metacognitive processes in the beginning, then goes on to describe three different processes), myriad propositions not suggested by any known research (and thus do not have in-text citations), conceptual confusions ("metacognition of metacognition", fortunately this one only found its way to the talk page), and so forth.
Further, there needs to be a discussion on whether certain topics are appropriate to the page at all (for example, Works of art as metacognitive artifacts). Should we allow different definitions of the topic of the wikipedia page within that wikipedia page?
The further reading section is also quite messy, and includes some pretty strange entries (some of them are good, but will surely find their way to the reference section once the page is updated). Quite a few of them are replicates from the proper reference section. I'm suggesting we remove the further reading section asap.
It would be great to get some work done on this by the APS wikiproject.
CabbageX ( talk) 20:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I wish they taught metacognition or learning theory courses (in addition to reading/writing/arithmetic) when we were growing up. Kids were expected to learn, but rarely taught how to learn; perhaps then kids would have more confidence instead of tuning out or dropping out. -- 76.175.67.121 ( talk) 20:07, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
It seems very likely that good scientific and theoretical critiques of this concept have been published. They should be summarized and cited in this article. In particular, readers need to know 1-Are there good measures --- objective tests -- of metacognition. If so, do they agree with each other? Alternately, is it possible that metacognition takes multiple forms that do not correlate much with each other? 2-The article juxtaposes IQ and metacognition, but passes lightly over this topic. There must be some positive correlation between IQ and IQ. This should be explained, at least briefly. 3-To what extent does metacognition reflect personality traits, particularly in relation to the five-factor model? It seems plausible that metacognition might reflect Neuroticism (negative emotionality might overwhelm higher cognitive processes for example), Agreeableness (high-A people are less skeptical, more gullible, and therefore, perhaps less meta-cognitive), or Conscientiousness (High-C people are more deliberative and orderly).
C'mon folks. We can do better. 2602:306:CDB2:4860:45D8:F0AB:BDFE:FD03 ( talk) 19:22, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
An example of Person knowledge could be added to make more sense and be more definitive for the reader. For example, instead of "Person knowledge (declarative knowledge) which is understanding one's own capabilities,", it could say Person knowledge (declarative knowledge) is the understanding of one's own capabilities such as a student evaluating his/her own knowledge of a subject in a class." Also I think it would be beneficial to outline that not all metacognition, especially Person knowledge is correct or accurate. Students often believe they understand concepts after easier methods of studying while they feel no better after repetition and constant evaluation of the material. Studies show, however, that the revaluation and constant revisiting of the knowledge is more beneficial to understanding the concepts. Would this be ok to change? Also a better term for Person knowledge could be used. Thanks Cproctor23 ( talk) 15:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Christopher Proctor
I think what you said (about clarifying that not all metacognition is correct) is important. Perhaps, you could talk about desirable difficulties and even link to the article that is currently under construction. Stephanie Parrado ( talk) 18:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
"Thinking ABOUT thinking" is not "BEYOND thinking", isn't it? It is still thinking. Consciousness is beyond thinking. Shouldn't this article be going more in the direction of awareness, self-control, willpower, emotional intelligence, prefrontal cortex, von economo neurons etc.?
-Just saying, yours sincerely Ranz Kafka — Preceding
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As part of WikiProject Psychology, two peers and myself will be adding a section on Social Metacognition which will define and describe Social Metacognition as well as discuss attitudes and decision making, self-concept, stereotypes, and prejudice as they relate to the topic. Any suggestions are welcome! Kellieebrown ( talk) 16:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
There has been a lot of work put into this article. There is a lot of information to learn about metacognition. Although there is quit a bit of information the article is extremely messy and needs restructured. Basic sentence structure can be improved as well as cleaning out repeated statements. The lead can use some work in being more concise. It could also use some images to break the monotony of so much text. Mcoesens ( talk) 16:53, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
The Regulation of Cognition section is missing the components of Information Management and Debugging
Janawollesen ( talk) 03:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
From the article as it stands right now:
I don't know the topic enough to fix this problem. Regardless of which number is right, "classified into" is not idiomatic.
President Lethe ( talk) 18:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)