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I propose the following:
It is not Neutral point of view to surpress Lottoland's position with respect to the “Glückspielstaatsvertrag” and to present only the opinion of "Deutscher Lotto and Totoblock", their opponent.
Similar to
this version it should be written:
The providers themselves, however, emphasise that the German Inter-State Gambling Treaty infringes the Services in the Internal Market Directive of the European Union, which forms the legal basis of their products. [1] "The German lottery monopoly is not compliant with EU law. That is why Lottoland is entitled to the Services in the Internal Market Directive and thus also the EU license in Germany", said Wilhelm Huber, boss of Lottoland Deutschland. [2]] The company also stress that gambling in Germany on a national level does not fully comply with the requirements of the European Court of Justice, stating that the demand to combat the risks of gambling connected to the state monopoly is not being met in a coherent and systematic manner. [3]
The structure of section 2 Products
should be * 2.1 B2C * 2.2 B2B
Scratchcards and online games should be addressed in section 2.1. Main B2C business of Lottoland is to offer lottery betting (Lotto etc).
Like in this version it should be said:
With its B2B arm Lottoland Solutions, Lottoland offers business customers the opportunity to offer lottery betting. [4]
I propose to bring back Acquisitions and investments like in this version.
Lottoland took over the German lottery portal Lottohelden at the end of 2015. [5] The company also has shares in LottoGopher, a provider of lottery tickets from Los Angeles listed on the Canadian Stock Exchange. [6]
Why this? Because Lottoland has worldwide investments to broaden its business model. Their investments were topics of media coverage. (Note on Jumbo Interactive: shares have been sold meanwhile.)
This section should also mention:
In 2017, Lottoland set up its own insurance company (Fortuna Insurance PCC) to take on the risks of wagers. [7]
Latest actions and controversies in Australia should be mentioned.
After
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries in Gibraltar, Great Britain, Ireland and Australia (as of June 2017).[19][20][21][22][23] we should add:
In November 2017, after months of campaigning from state lotteries and newsagent groups, [8] the Northern Territory Government has banned Lottoland from selling bets on Australian lotteries. [9]
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Declined Please see individual comments for more information. Spintendo ᔦᔭ 14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
The IP that removed this source, "Adjudication 1682: Complainant/news.com.au (September 2016) - Australian Press Council". www.presscouncil.org.au. Retrieved 2018-03-27. [1] geolocates to Gibraltar. Lottoland is headquarted in Gibraltar. Just sayin' Mduvekot ( talk) 00:34, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
1) Small extension of chapter "History":
Lottoland was founded by David Rosen as a limited company in Gibraltar in May 2013 and started out with seven employees. [3][4] [1] [2]
2) Update of chapter "Licenses and legal background":
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries in Gibraltar, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy and Australia (as of May 2018).[19][20][21][22][23] [3]
3) Small extension of chapter "Acquisitions and investments":
...listed on the Canadian Stock Exchange.[34] In May 2018, the company acquired the majority share of Giochi24 (Italy). [3]
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It would be nice if these additions and updates are included in the article. Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 08:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
The individual references listed for this portion of the text ought to be listed here in the talk page as well. In the above examples, several of the reference note numbers are listed (i.e., [19][20][21][22][23]), yet the appurtenant references which align with those numbers have not been included. Please ensure that all references which are to be included in the final result in the article are listed within the text here on the talk page. Thank you! . spintendo 16:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
@ Atomiccocktail: Thank you for your reply. In part of the request the references [19][20][21][22][23] are all bundled together, like this example below:
Incorrect way.
While the sun is pretty big, the moon is not nearly as big and the sun is extremely hot. [1] [2] [3]
Notes
But bundling citations is not the correct way to format text. The correct way of displaying them would be like this:
Correct way.
While the sun is pretty big, [1] the moon is not nearly as big [2] and the sun is extremely hot. [3]
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As you can see from the second example, the correct way is to have each individual reference note placed immediately after the text it verifies. In your edit request proposal I'm not sure which reference goes where. A part of all edit request reviews is ensuring that the text is formatted correctly, in which case, this current proposal needs to be reformatted so that each reference note aligns with the text which the reference verifies. As you are the proposing editor, you are presumably the one most familiar with this text and its references, so you're the best person equipped to format the text correctly. As soon as the formatting is completed we can move on to the last part of the review. When ready to proceed, please activate a new edit request template on this page to notify myself or another editor that you're ready to go. Thanks! . spintendo 02:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everybody. I have improved the revision request once again (position of the references). It would be nice if these additions and updates are included in the article. Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 10:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
1) Small extension of chapter "History":
Lottoland was founded by David Rosen [1] [2] in Gibraltar in May 2013 [3] and started out with seven employees. [4]
2) Update of chapter "Licenses and legal background":
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries in Gibraltar, [5] [6] Great Britain, [5] [7] [6] Ireland, [8] [6] Italy [9] [6] and Australia [10] [7] (as of May 2018).
3) Small extension of chapter "Acquisitions and investments":
...listed on the Canadian Stock Exchange. [11] In May 2018, the company acquired the majority share of Giochi24 (Italy). [9]
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Lottoland was founded by David Rosen in Gibraltar in May 2013 and started out with seven employees.
Approved. [note 1]
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Update of chapter "Licenses and legal background": Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries in Gibraltar
Approved.
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Great Britain
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Ireland
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Italy
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and Australia.
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Small extension of chapter "Acquisitions and investments":...listed on the Canadian Stock Exchange. In May 2018, the company acquired the majority share of Giochi24 (Italy).
Unable to implement. [note 5]
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- ^ This sentence was re-worded to say: "Lottoland was founded by David Rosen in May 2013. Based in Gibralter, the company originally started with seven employees."
- ^ The reference given for this claim was to Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source. (See WP:WINARS.)
- ^ The reference given for the Italian license is a press release issued by a gaming industry informational website. Sources for this information should come from primary sources, similar to those referencing the licenses obtained in Ireland and Australia. (See WP:PRIMARY.)
- ^ This license was specified as a wagering license.
- ^ This portion of your request could not be implemented because the references placed under reference note #11 are a combination of two sources: a press release and a podcast. Both sources need to be placed separately using the appropriate citation templates Cite podcast and Cite press release. It should be noted, however, that neither of these particular references would work as sources for these types of claim statements, which concern the listing upon the Canadian Stock Exchange and the acquisition of Giochi, both of which ought to be referenced by other, more significant primary sources. (See WP:RSOPINION.)
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I checked offline sources and websources about Italy and Great Britan.
1) Update of chapter "Licenses and legal background":
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries in Gibraltar, Great Britain, [1] Ireland, [2] Italy [3] and Australia, where it has a wagering license. [4]
2) Small extension of chapter "Acquisitions and investments":
In May 2018, the company acquired the majority share of Giochi24 (Italy). [3]
Information on LottoGopher can be deleted if source are not applicable.
3) Update of biggest win
Please delete
According to Lottoland, the company has paid out winnings of more than 684 million euros to date. Its highest cash prize of 22 million euros was paid out to a customer in Berlin in May 2016 Its highest cash prize of 22 million euros was paid out to a customer in Berlin in May 2016.[17][18][19]
Update is
According to Lottoland, the company has paid out winnings of more than 960 million euros till June 2018. [5] Its highest cash prize of 90 million euros was paid out to a customer in Berlin in June 2018. [6] [7] [8] [9]
It would be nice if these additions and updates are included in the article. Thank you in advance.
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Update of chapter "Licenses and legal background":
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries [1] in Gibraltar, Great Britain, [2] Ireland, [3] Italy [4] and Australia, where it has a wagering license. [5]
Reason: 1) References of an Italian license of Lottoland is given. 2) References of UK licenses are given too.
It would be nice if this proposal could be implemented. Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 10:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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Tge (sic!) purchase coincides with the roll out of the new Lottoland.it Italian-facing platform, which launches via the firm's newly obtained Italian licence. […] Lottoland now holds eight national gambling licences: three in the UK, two in Gibraltar and one each in Ireland, Australia and Italy.
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Implemented All of these were implemented. spintendo 12:00, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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I propose that section "Customers and turnover" will be added with the following information, after "It generated sales of over 300 million euros in 2016.[9][6][13][28][29]":
The highest payout went to Berlin with 90 million euros in June 2018. [1] [2] [3] This led to an entry in the Guinness Book of Records on September 17, 2018. [4]
It would be nice if this proposal could be implemented. Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 18:26, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everybody, I ask you to reset all these edits. “Wirtschaftswoche” says Rosen was the founder, not Birrell (Birrell is CEO). Moreover, it is nonsense to substantiate data for the year 2018 with newspaper sources from 2017.
It would be nice if this proposal could be implemented. Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 09:55, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everyone,
I ask if anyone can delete outdated information. Lottoland is no longer invested in Jumbo Interactive. That is why it should be written:
“The company also has shares LottoGopher, a provider of …”
Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 15:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Spintendo 18:32, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everyone, hello Spintendo,
Sorry. Sources are for example Lottoland sells stake in Jumbo Interactive (July 2017) or Lottoland sells Jumbo Interactive stake two months after purchase (July 2017)
Therefore it should be written in section “Acquisitions and investments”:
The company also has shares of LottoGopher, a provider of …”
Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 11:25, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Regards, Spintendo 12:33, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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Lottoland recently got a Swedish license. For that reason, it should be stated in section “Licenses and legal background”:
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries[2] in Gibraltar, Italy,[4] the United Kingdom,[5] Ireland,[3] Sweden [1] and Australia, where it has a wagering license.[1]
Can someone insert this? Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 08:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
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Regards, Spintendo 17:29, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Lottoland drivs av United Lottery Solutions Ltd. med licensnummer 117131 utfärdat av Spelinspektionen. (Lottoland is operated by United Lottery Solutions Ltd. with license number 117131 issued by the Gaming Inspectorate). Spelinspektionen states that the website of United Lottery Solutions Ltd is lottoland.se.
Edit request implemented Spintendo 13:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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In the article about Lottoland in the de.wikipedia.org. the photo has been removed today. The photo is from 2010. With very high probability the office did not exist at the time in the three wooden buildings directly in the harbor basin. These offices are on a second floor, which was apparently later built. That's why the photo should also get out of here. So that's understandable, what I mean: Here you can see the location of Lottoland. The photo of 2010 used in the article obviously does not show these office constructions. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 15:35, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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Lottoland recently got a South African license. For that reason, it should be stated in section “Licenses and legal background”:
Lottoland currently has licenses from national supervisory bodies for lotteries[2] in Gibraltar, Italy,[4] the United Kingdom,[5] Sweden,[22] Ireland,[3] South Africa [1] and Australia, where it has a wagering license.[1]
Can someone insert this? Thank you in advance. Atomiccocktail ( talk) 11:39, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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Edit request implemented Spintendo 12:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hello everyone,
There are a few new developments that could possibly be incorporated into the article. In detail, the following aspects are concerned:
a) Sport betting
b) Legal situation in Australia
c) Customer base
d) CSR
I would be grateful if someone would check the following suggestions and implement them in the article if possible.
Best regards,
Atomiccocktail (
talk) 13:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
In section 2 (Products), the first sentence should be added with a second one:
Since 2019, the company also offers sports betting. [1]
In section 3 (Licenses and legal background) the second paragraph should be updated by an addition:
Lottoland then filed a complaint against the Australian Communications and Media Authority. The Supreme Court of New South Wales ruled in favour of the company. [2]
In section 4.1 (Customers and turnover) one could update the number of customers:
The company claims a customer base of 10 million people (as of September 2019). [3]
I suggest another section, preferably a new section 5 after section 4.2 (Acquisitions and investments)
== Corporate social responsibility == With the help of its foundation, the company supports the German environmental organization One Earth – One Ocean in a project to remove plastic waste from seas. [4] In May 2020, the company launched a charity lottery in the UK, with proceeds from the lottery going to the British Red Cross, Hospice UK, Keep Britain Tidy and the Marine Conservation Society. [5]
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