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And in 2007 also 7 years after the in 2000 by the United Nations and its member states adopted Millennium Development Goals (MDG):
In 2007 it is also halfway the 2000-2015 period to implement these goals worldwide.
There was a Live Earth concert in Romania where Robert Plant had a concert. Blakut
-It was probalbly a "friend of live earth" concert.
The Live Earth event in DC wasn't officially on the National Mall
It was at the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian. which is on the mall. But the event was Not a Park service event ( Runs things on the mall) but a Smithsonian event that spilled over onto the mall
plant-to-headline-romanian-live-earth live-earth-in-romania-bucharest It sais here there was a live earth in Bucharest...
It was, as mentioned before, a Friends of Live Earth event. It was not an official event sponsored by SOS, but it ran in the same time frame. There were many of them across the world. -- Aremith Talk 01:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Early 2007 Al Gore among others came up with the concept of Live Earth. But other organisations and people had adopted earlier likewise idea's/concept to organise worldwide something on July 7th 2007.
21World Festival (' to one world '): concept originally of 21World, which had already in 2005/ 2006 the idea to organise a worldwide festival on July 7th, 2007 in 7 stadiums on 7 continents for One World without Poverty and Prosperity problems: 21World Festival. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
"One should spend 7% of one's money or of one's time on sustainable development and/or international co-operation!"
Live Earth Alert: in the Netherlands had a unique character because of its length and total concept and in addtion to 'Live Earth'. They presented and broadcasted live a 24hour program Live Earth Alert ca. saturday-morning 08:00-08:00hrs sunday-morning (local time, W.E.T.) including live-streams from all 7 continents and stadiums (in sequential other) on Nederland 3 (='public television station TV Netherlands 3') by BNN, NOS, LLink and 3FM (='public radio station Radio 3FM') < ref > BNN: Live Earth on Nederland 3 (TV) and Radio 3FM (in Dutch), partly in English < /ref >. It has been included worldwide reports from Dutch correspondents stationed in all 7 seven continents and also from the home-location Westerpark in Amsterdam (capital of the Netherlands): ( Live Earth Alert) < ref > Live Earth Alert.nl (in Dutch), partly in English < /ref >, where as part of the total concept, a parallel concert-program on stage produced by the Dutch run from 12:00-23:00hrs (W.E.T) as well as various side-events. - ( Wereld 22:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC))
N.B. a few things come together in the topics above:
- ( Wereld 23:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC) )
- ( Wereld 00:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC) )
I saw on tv today that "Blue King Brown" appeared wearing tshirts with large block lettering: "SAY NO TO NUCLEAR POWER" (or something along those lines.) I think that's highly controversial (and upsetting at a venue that claims to be anti global warming... sigh...). Anyone care to follow up?
One of the performers did talk about nuclear energy in a negative light in the middle of their set
What i saw on foxtel was coverage on V and MAX from 11 am and coverage on Fox8 from 6pm. so it's not quite accurate what is there now. But I am not sure how I would rewrite it. Farsouth 12:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The performance can be found at http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/indepth/nunatak/video/index.php .
Is it worth mentioning that the official websites are run by MSN? Whether intentional or not, they're not usable under any non- Internet Explorer browser. Try and see any running orders in Firefox - it doesn't work. Cpc464 14:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I had an article on the main page at the begining of the concert. I could not get anything to work with Opera and only limited video for Firefox and less capabilities. A screen would come up telling me to use Internet Explorer.
yes the live streams were IE/MS biased. firefox only had quicktime streams, and not the "fancy" all-in-one deal IE had. I could not access anything from my ubuntu box, had to switch over to XP, This is worth mentioning. --
espo111 04:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Suggest that a new category be formed linking all the performers and venues. -- Hourick 14:39, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Why has the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle been included in Live Earth#See also? While it would be relevant in an article on global warming and climate change, I don't see how it pertains to Live Earth. And why have Bon Jovi and The Eagles been included in the See also? Bon Jovi will perform at one gig, but that would mean we would have to include each and every single band and singer. The Eagles aren't mentioned anywhere else in the article. A ecis Brievenbus 18:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Statement that Republicans criticized Gore as using event to furter presidential ambitions, is undocumented. But since it is included, Gore's response needs to be as well, which includes his statement that he's involved in a campaign to solve the climate crisis, not a presidential campaign. Also, I can only find instances in which "Gore Aid" is used as a headline, including in the article cited in Wikipedia. Since writers frequently do not write their own headlines, and there is no citation to a place where a person actually referred to Gore Aid, the reference was deleted as it is not accurate. Atsiki 00:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I got caught up in an edit conflict and wasn't able to salvage my extensive edits to the presidential and celebrity sections. With so many edits going on and previous comments about cleaning up after the rush, I decided to leave the links here for consideration or come back when things calm down and see if they add anything.
Per the connection between live earth and presidential ambitions: Gore was in the media a lot this past week, and questions about the 2008 race came up a lot (especially since another Tennessean is a potential candidate). Here's the link to the transcript of the Larry King show where Gore says he's "fallen out of love with politics" and found something he likes better (i.e. Live Earth+ projects)
"I'm involved in a different kind of campaign not for myself, not as a candidate, but to change people's minds about the most dangerous crisis we've ever faced and the greatest set of opportunities we've ever confronted to solve this climate crisis," Gore said. "And it feels to me like that's the right thing for me to be doing."
Gore also addresses some of the criticisms--he clearly states the goals, discusses his footprint, commercial flights, and the decision to hold a concert in China.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0707/05/lkl.01.html
Patrick Michaels: Yahoo news links sometimes don't stay up long, and if the source is just a distribution copy of a press release and not a real article (I had not checked it yet), here's the original press release of the quote at the Cato website: http://www.cato.org/new/pressrelease.php?id=103
If the Daily Mail is a reliable source, this article at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=466775&in_page_id=1879&ICO=FEMAIL&ICL=TOPART is a better source for Madonna's footprint than the blog, and has a great deal of statistics the paper compiled with the help of experts (I had been checking them out)...the Madonna bit in the article is snarky, but my edit just to get the link in ended up just looking mean. My people will be sending her people flowers and a hybrid Hummer tomorrow, I guess.
Could we also dump some of the overly long quotes (i.e. Geldof) and the block quote styles? The Daily Mail quote of the Muse singer was more succinct...and more coherent. Flowanda 00:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The main authors of this page should be doing a better job of negotiating where criticisms should be included and where not; you could make 5 full wikipedia articles on the criticisms of any major event such as this. The key is finding criticisms relevant to the article - i.e. in this case, more wide spread criticisms than simply this person or group said this and this person or group said that. For example, stating that this event caused more harm (according to sources) than it did good is relavent, whereas issues facing certain venues (e.g. London/Washington) is not. --
65.92.16.66 03:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC) (
Gregorof - Shared IP address but too lazy to log in)
It seems to me that there should be more nuanced discussion in the carbon footprint criticism section. Simply stating the amount of carbon released by the event, or by event participants is not a criticism in and of itself. The unstated assumption (which I happen to disagree with) is that an event to raise awareness of climate change must emit low or no carbon (to not be hypocritical). Unfortunately, given the current state of the economy, any event of this magnitude is going to have GHG emissions associated with it, and no climate change activists seriously present "no carbon" as a viable solution in the short term. This section should therefore be deleted, or appended to elucidate the assumptions. If no one takes this on, I'll do it after work today. -- Autumninjersey 17:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I saw it on t.v. Zephead999 03:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't believe most of what you see on television. sean.ridgeley 20:42, 10 July 2007 (GMT)
I added information on what I thought were the other key players in the production of Live Earth (Other than Wall and Gore). Aaron grosky was in charge of all Talent and Programming worldwide, and Lily sobhani was head of all events worldwide (both of these are from the official program credits).
None of the items in the Trivia section seem relevant. Are there any arguments for keeping the section? Gdarklighter 07:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Is there any relevance in the 07/07/07 date in the first line to this event? Seems pretty pointless to have this up just because it was on July 7th, 2007. Smoothy 12:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Gore said in an interview with Billboard that essentially it was just easy to remember. sean.ridgeley 20:44, 10 July 2007 (GMT)
"The concerts brought together more than 150 of the world's most popular music acts and drew an estimated worldwide audience of 2 billion people, making it one of the largest global events in history."
2 Billion people seems like a heavily overestimated amount of viewers and listeners. This would mean that alomost 1 out of 3 people on earth must have seen it! 194.78.199.56 13:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Not even 5 million out of 50 in the UK watched it, so i doubt it. Cm619 17:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It would probably be wise to make the distinction that it was made available to 2 billion people, but not viewed by anywhere near that many. ~ S0CO( talk| contribs) 02:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Can someone add a criticism to the article. What I am talking about is during the US BROADCAST on Bravo(BRAVO CHANNEL) I didnt have a clue what act was live or what. I think the US BROADCAST of Live Earth was tape delayed by at least 20 min/per act I think. I think THE following should be added to the article
Criticism-
The US BROADCAST of LIVE EARTH 2007 was not "live" but tape delayed by a few minutes then shown on the television channel BRAVO. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.254.71.26 ( talk) 17:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
When I watched the US feed on Bravo Channel I didnt know if it was live or not.
It is now the general opinion of most of the World that Live Earth sucked.
No the verison shown on NBC was not live it was taped. The US Verison shown on TV was not properly organized right. It didnt have a "live" symbol on screen. It would have been a little helpful for the guy watching at home to know that the band was playing was live or not.
Where did the electricity come from to power the concerts? From some sort of combustable energy? I think if the source of the electricity wasn't from a "clean" source, then there's a sort of double-standard there. -- 12.116.162.162 18:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I have noticed that the Antarctic section has no mention of the fact that this was the first time ever that a concert was broadcast worldwide from that location. Trivial, but it should be mentioned somehow. It is also overall the first event to utilize all 7 continents as "venues."—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.96.221.234 ( talk • contribs) 10 July 2007
Not only is the Antarctic concert ignored, but all of the unofficial concerts are given short shrift, as is the fact that it was a major multimedia event, worldwide. The second sentence of the lead states:
No mention of the venues in which the concert was successful? This is not an accurate portrayal of the event IMHO. The lead needs to be completely re-written from a neutral point of view. Let's get our act together folks, many people have already checked to see what Wikipedia says about the concert. Many more will do so. We need a balanced article. Sunray 15:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
AL HAIL! -- Esmerelda Querida 04:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I removed a misleading map that was trying to show the cities that had Live Earth concerts. Good idea, but that particular map had highlighted the entire country of China, the entire country of Brazil, the entire USA, etc., which was very strange because it implied that these entire countries somehow participated in the concerts. Tempshill 15:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I removed this paragraph from the lead:
The sources don't even come close to matching the text, the only part that is sourced is " Washington D.C., where attendance ran into the low hundreds." but there is no indication that this was a disappointment for the live earth organizers. Please find sources for this paragraph before putting it back in. Thanks. Turtlescrubber 19:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
i rekon the live earth logo lok sjust like Macquarie Bank, therefore mac bank is recieving all the benefits of LE!
i don't understand, there was also a concert in tel aviv, why don't they mention it anyware?
Do you have proof of this? Ever thought it could be just a coincidence? -- Esmerelda Querida 04:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me... I would like to point out the terrible slags against Macy Gray when the article was first being formulated... as in while the Live Earth Concerts were happening. It was a disgusting smear against her and the person responsible should be ashamed of themselves. Not everyone shares your thoughts and opinions, so please... KEEP THEM TO YOURSELVES!!!!!! -- Esmerelda Querida 04:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
The article claims that Chris Rock called the crowd motheruckers, but actually he referred to them as Niggers because they had become confusingly tanned due to the glorious British sunshine, apparently appearing black to him.
This section should be amended once I (or anyone else) has found a copy of the program knocking around on the internet or VHS if anyone recorded it.
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The previous content in the "Inspiration for the style of concerts" section was original research. The sources cited did not support the assertion that these concerts inspired Live Earth. Lea Faka 22:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm watching a 1987 video downloaded via BitTorrent from conspiracycentral's torrent tracker, featuring George Hunt talking about world banking and the NWO. In it a document is shown with the title
At the bottom of the title page it reads "A SUMMARY OF THE EARTH FUND PROGRAMS". The logo has some similarities with the Live Earth logo being a very thick circle, although not as thick as the present Live Earth logo, with the earth in its hollow. Can anyone bring out any information on this organization? __ meco ( talk) 22:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)