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How do we classify whether a film is "anti-war" in order to avoid personal bias? Shawnc 15:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
If this list was based on accuracy, South Park wouldn't be on here. User:65.185.170.172
I dont think this list is useless considering alot of people would probably expect it. I dont think there's such thing as a "Pro war movie", but certainly some war movies are meant to be entertainment instead of a statement on the horrors of war. Thats why Dirty dozen isn't on this list it's entertainment (I think). Yojimbo501 ( talk) 22:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone had attempted to delete the extensive list of anti-war films we had compiled. This list has now been restored but please keep an eye on the page to prevent further vandalism. 210.50.56.115 ( talk) 05:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
That's because most of them aren't actually anti-war films, they're just films with a gist of "war isn't great". An anti-war film is a film that concentrates specifically on the effects of war, rather than its plot or characters. Saving Private Ryan for example concentrates on the soldiers' mission to find the title character, not on the events of war they are involved in. Come and see on the other hand concentrates on the destruction of villages and the death of civilians, rather than the ambitions of the character: there is a clear divide between such films. I continue to believe that this list needs serious modification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.224.133 ( talk) 09:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I want a few opinions. Is it anti war? Tell me why it is or isn't. 70.108.199.3 ( talk) 15:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I second that. The film didn’t push the anti-war type message as they typically do. -- DavidD4scnrt ( talk) 07:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I have removed a good amount of movies on this article's list. Don't get me wrong, there have been a lot of anti-war movies and some of them have been quite good, but a lot of what was on that list didn't even remotely qualify as anti-war movie. Equinox137 ( talk) 05:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC) Both Flags of Our Fathers and The Americanization of Emily are anti-war films. However, they both acknowledge that a particular war may be necessary. The message in both of those films is that political leaders should not be encouraged to enter a country into war with the prospect of parks and roadways being renamed for them. Chester polarbear ( talk) 03:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
To me Saving Private Ryan is a very powerful anti-war movie, because the story is about one man losing all three of his brothers in World War Two. Doesn't that sound like anti-war? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.237.217 ( talk • contribs) 22:19, April 22, 2008 (UTC)
Steven Spielberg mentioned in various interviews about the film that he wanted to make war look as unglamorous as possible. The bloody Omaha Beach scene serves as a powerful anti-war argument. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.9.196 ( talk) 14:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Fog of War Hi all, Fog of War is a Academy award winning documentary - so is a documentary Film a film and does it go on the list ? If not do we have a seperate anti war documentary article ? Bill Ladd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Ladd ( talk • contribs) 21:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I see I'm not the first person to see that this is a rather subjective subject, with no no clear definition of what constitutes an anti-war film. If a film that simply accurately shows what war is like is "anti-war", then presumably War is and "anti-war article". My own POV definition would be more like a film that makes a point that was (or a specific war) is wrong and shouldn't have been fought (after all, a film could make the point that war is hell, but necessary none the less).
But in any case, its not for me, or any other editor to define what an "anti-war film" is, so I've stuck a citation needed tag on the definition in the first line. Wardog ( talk) 12:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I suggest adding ATTACK! and Stalag 17--both worth watching time and time again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.166.143 ( talk) 20:40, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Just fixed a couple of links by disambiguation, and added two films that I consider obviously qualified:
I have another proposed addition I'm a bit less sure of and would like to know if any of the long-time editors of this article have any comments, to wit:
thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fat&Happy ( talk • contribs) 07:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Authors of this article should provide citations from reliable sources containing statements from important film staff to decide whether it is an anti-war film or not. Otherwise it is just a subjective interpretation of each film made by individuals who have no participation in the film(thus no authority to decide) which makes the list useless as a reference. This could be done by citing interviews where the film staff states their ideas behind the movie, in order to decide whether it was made consciously an anti-war film or not. Otherwise it should be classified as a war film, or more specifically: a world war 2 film, iraq war film, etc.
Like others, I raise the question of what then is a pro-war film? Are films which are not anti-war pro-war? Who is to decide? My personal view is that these categories should be unnecessary, we cannot classify every movie into "anti" and "pro" films, such as classifying a film criticizing the American government as an anti-american film or a pro-religion film, etc. Most of these movies can be classified as simply war films. Additionally I would say that these classifications may or may not contain negative connotations for each individual viewer which may inhibit the viewer from wanting to see the film or to look at the film without a biased predisposition.
A war film will always involve controversial issues, which in turn will always be subject to individual interpretation; such as the debate of whether the nuclear bombing of Japan was justified or not. That is, was it primarily a way to put an effective and quick end to the war or was it also decided upon as an opportunity to test the bomb so that war specialists could do research on the effects it would have on a population? In my view it is entirely up to the viewer of these films to decide. Hence, I suggest this article either be integrated into the war film article under a sub-section(removing those films which cannot be cited as being antiwar), or be deleted entirely until the authors of the article can provide citations from the film staff itself stating that the film was meant to be against war in the general sense. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yyunn ( talk • contribs) 11:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I've heard from Sylvester Stallone himself that the movies Rambo III (and presumeably the other movies) are antiwarmovies. they do have very brutal scenes that point in that direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.120.172.21 ( talk) 20:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
This is the only film I ever saw that I can classify as anti-war. When i Saw SPR as a teen, my mother was angry that I cheered on the Americans killing Germans, which I admit in my naivety was sorta wrong. Yea Germany was the 'bad guy' but the young being killed were no less 'bad' or more 'good' than any other grunt. With age though, I matured and began to see war for what it was and I did not see war films in the same light. This was especially true after watching Gallipoli. It shows the perspective of young men eager to fight, a sentiment I had some of as a youth. That was slowly ground down throughout the film, culminating in a a shocking and abrupt ending. Watch this movie if you haven't and tell me if you agree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.108.3.241 ( talk) 12:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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