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Yes, Ender. You might remeember me doing a large cut & paste job on it not long after you started it. Lots more to do there. And here. As ever. Always too many things to do, never enough time to do them all. :(
Tannin
I was wondering if there should be some sort of addition of the role of humans in the extinctions in Australia.
Nathan GO THE DO DO
Move to List of extinct Australian animals?
Since this is a list and other countries have articles of the format List of extinct XXXX animals should it be considered for moving?
Alan Liefting 20:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)reply
When I get around to it I'd like to expand this article so it was less like a list and more like an article, so I'd prefer that is was left where it is currently.--
nixie 22:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)reply
If the article is moved to comply with accepted standards, you can still work on it. That's the point of having a wiki. Anon user comment.
I can see a case for two articles:
Extinct Australian animals and
List of extinct Australian animals. The former would be a discussion on it and the latter is an outright list. Lists can get long and unweildly - not sure if this would be the case for Aussie animals.
Alan Liefting 23:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)reply
Gastric brooding without hyphens
I removed the hyphens from the gastric brooding frog in order to make it consistent with links on other pages, currently
Myobatrachidae,
Frog and
Eastern banjo frog. If you disagree, please change the hyphenation on these other pages, too! - Samsara 21:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Zosterops albogularis
Is this bird endangered or is it extinct? The wikipedia page for the bird states that it is endangered, so if this claim is truth it should be removed from this page. Any insight?
Please see the discussion on the species page. --
Peta 02:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)reply
Does noone car anymore?
Noone cares about animals anymore. The few people that do should take a stand and start a petition about animal abuse and cruelty and stuff like that. It is really sad that heaps of animals are now extinct becaus eof us. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Gothic chic (
talk •
contribs) 10:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Article lacks citation
This paragraph,
"it is worth making special mention of the three great human-introduced killer species: the European rabbit, the European Red Fox, and the domestic cat. Although many other introduced species have played a destructive role, so far these three have been far and away the most significant."
needs to be cited. According to whom are the rabbit, red fox and cat the biggest causes of extinction in Aus? Not saying that these species are not the biggest a citation would be appreciated :) —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
203.39.51.116 (
talk) 04:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)reply
I've tagged it for a cite. But given that the article is a list of extinct animals, is it even appropriate to include the supposed prime contributors in the lead? Also when the article has "...is worth making special mention... " it seems to be very much a value judgement, which is out of place in an encyclopedia.
MurfleMan (
talk) 00:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I've now removed the mention, if it is to be reinstated, it would need a cite, and a reasonable argument for inclusion.
MurfleMan (
talk) 00:12, 23 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Requested move
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The result of the proposal was not moved. There doesn't seem to be a compelling reason for differing from other lists of extinct animals. --
BDD (
talk) 16:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC) (
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Requested move 1 November 2023
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I now realize that including New Guinea doesn't improve the article. Only a small number of the species I added represent New Guinea Island (including a beetle, a possum, and several
BCE species). The great majority of the New Guinea species I transferred to this article (numerous birds and a few rodents) are from the
Islands Region of
Papua New Guinea, which is not technically part of
Sahul. The map at the beginning of
List of Oceanian animals extinct in the Holocene includes New Guinea as part of
Melanesia, and on second thought that sounds like an appropriate place to include New Guinea extinctions. If New Guinea Island had astronomical numbers of extinct
marsupials and native
rodents (similar to
Mainland Australia), it would be easier to justify including New Guinea in this list. But it seems like that just isn't the case.Columbianmammoth (
talk) 06:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Part of me is hoping that someone will come to the defense of Sahul (Australia-New Guinea), but for the reasons I stated above I doubt that's going to happen.
Columbianmammoth (
talk) 06:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment I think it should be
List of Sahul species extinct in the Holocene, and NG be returned here. The biographic divide includes NG and Wallacaea in
Sahul. The Oceania article should be restricted to Zeelandia and the Pacific Islands, removing Sahul. --
65.92.247.90 (
talk) 11:33, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment This is one of those difficult cases where I agree with you in principle but feel obligated to point out Wikipedia's policies. I agree that
Sahulought to be the commonly used and recognized name for Earth's 7th continent including New Guinea (with Australia being reserved exclusively for the
country of Australia), but that just isn't the case yet. Policies like
WP:COMMONNAME discourage Wikipedia editors from being trendsetters. Also, if you truly believe that Sahul is the best name for the subject and have reliable sources, this is the wrong forum. Go start a merge discussion at
Sahul and
Australia (continent). The former is a
paleogeographystub, while the latter is the main article on the Australian continent (Australia-New Guinea).
Also,
Wallacea defines said region as the archipelago between the shelfs of
Sunda and
Sahul, excluding the
Philippines. More specifically, Wallacea is the region between the
Wallace Line and
Lydekker Line. The
Weber Line, which cuts through the middle of Wallacea, is one proposed dividing line between
Asia and
Australasia, with the lion's share of Wallacea going to Asia. (In other words, it's not correct to say that Wallacea is part of Sahul. Sahul is mainland Australia, Tasmania, and New Guinea.)
Columbianmammoth (
talk) 17:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
The opinion I voiced in my original post from 1st November is that New Guinea would be a better fit for
List of Oceanian species extinct in the Holocene because the huge number of extinct birds and rodents from the
Islands Region of
Papua New Guinea (relative to the small number of extinctions from New Guinea proper) merely clutters an article that should be about the astronomical number of recent extinctions from
Australia.
Under this proposal, Australia, New Zealand, and Hawaii would retain their own separate articles, while New Guinea-related material would be transferred to the Oceania article. If you disagree with me, the only decent alternative I can think of is the status quo, where the article is called
List of Australia-New Guinea species extinct in the Holocene.
Columbianmammoth (
talk) 17:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Komodo dragon
Hey, thanks for creating this fantastic article. Scientists recently discovered that Komodo dragons (Varanus komodoensis) once inhabited Australia.
Roy Robert Hay (
talk) 07:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)reply