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Does anyone out there know more about the government of the church? It seems hard to find an updated constitution.
Grow this section to move the article closer to "B" class. Also, citation for existing points would help. -- Secisek ( talk) 18:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I've reviewed the assessment. Nice growth and improvement over the past few months. I'd like to see more content on the international growth of the church and the history subsequent to the 1920/1921 schism. I'd also like, as Secisek above commented, to see more on the beliefs, but it is now not so flagrant a hole as to hold the article back from B. Two sections remain unreferenced, namely "Schism" and "People". It would also be nice to see more use of independent sources. All in all, this is a B-class article with some holes remaining. GRBerry 14:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I will start the GA review within the next four days. Cheers, Majoreditor ( talk) 03:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Overall: While the article is admirable in many ways, it doesn't yet meet GA standards. There are several major issues which need addressing, such as the citations to reliable, independent sources and the image non-free use details. As a result, I cannot pass the article. Rather than placing the nomination on hold, it's best to give the article's editors the time they need to fix the issues raised in this evaluation. The article can then be re-nominated at GAN.
Don't be mad or discouraged. The article is off to a solid start; with some additional work this article will meet GA criteria. Best wishes, Majoreditor ( talk) 04:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Sometime before the end of the year I'll make a run by the theology library and try to find some additional reference material for the article. Majoreditor ( talk) 18:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I realize we need more sources other than the church's. Most of the information I gave came from the internet, but I'll try to search for more independent sources. Ltwin ( talk) 18:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I've combined the Mergers and schism section, but I really don't know how the People section can be incorporated into other sections so I've left it for now. I'll try to take the list in Doctrine section and convert it into prose when I have the time. Ltwin ( talk) 21:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok I've gotten rid of the list, but I do not know if this is the best way to incoporate it into the paragraphs. Ltwin ( talk) 00:37, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm impressed to see how the article has progressed since I reviewed it. It is much better sourced than it used to be. You may want to consider re-nominating it at GAN. Majoreditor ( talk) 02:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Glad to hear it. Thanks for your help. Ltwin ( talk) 02:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Looking good so far, a more detailed review to follow! FeydHuxtable ( talk) 11:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
A quality entry that seems to meet all the Good Article requirments. I see MajorEditor who failed this at GA before has encouraged a re-nomination as the requested improvements have mostly been made. One minor point that wasnt addressed is that there is still no independent source for the membership figures - I changed the mention of membership in the lede to indicate the figures are self published. Other than that , just saw a couple of very minor improvements needed and I've already made the edits, therefore Im passing this article.
Here's just a few pointers in case anyones interested in expanding this to Featured Article status.
1) In the Origins section, a "Holiness" movement is mentioned - whats it all about and why did the Methodists reject it? The reference provided doesnt really answer these questions.
2) Whats a General Superintendent -is it an office similar to Arch Bishop , does it head the overall church?
3) History is well covered but it would be good to know more about the church as it is now. Is the PHC one of those churches where all almost the entire congregation receives the second baptism? What proportion speak in tongues? Other Christians are very interested in these things, in some major grouping like Catholics and Anglicans hardly anyone speaks in tongues, at least in the Western European and North American churches.
4) What other spiritual gifts are manifest?
5) Could the article talk a bit more about overseas ministries, maybe with a few specific examples.
6) A belief in a literal Heaven and Hell is mentioned, but how does the church stand on universal salvation, which has been described as the most important theological question of them all? In the Catholic , Eastern Orthodox and Anglican communions there are substantial bodies of opinion that while some may suffer in hell for a long time, even for ages, the Love of the triumphant Christ will ultimatly redeem all. Is this the case for HPC, one hears in some US churches everyone believes in eternal torment.
7) More pics please.
8) Any controversies and / or positive reception about the good work the church does? FeydHuxtable ( talk) 13:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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