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If the article is correct and the phoneme /s/ is meant here, what possible reason could there be for not transcribing the sound with a simple "s"? Simply as an homage to the initial Czech researcher? It certainly causes needless ambiguities and people writing inappropriate "sh"s - eg, "Hattusha(sh)" and "Kanesh." - LlywelynII ( talk) 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi I am looking for Hittite language I am searching for the word RUNDAS in Hittite Writing — Preceding unsigned comment added by GozelHalim1941 ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Two questions:
1) If URU is simply a nonverbalized indication that a place is being discussed, what possible reason could there be for its inclusion where such a distinction is obvious - for example, in the native language transcription of
Hattusa?
2) Regardless of whether Hittite conjugations were mentioned in the cuneiform, it's still believed they used them and we understand them. Why are they consistently omitted - again, for example, Hattusa, which would presumably have been Hattusas to the Hittites themselves? -
LlywelynII (
talk) 12:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
This needs a clearifing, As far as i know Hattusa as a kingdom have been recorded many times in Hittite state archives and also many Stele have been found (like one of Mursili I) in Hattusa, on Land of Hatti.
What can be the dispution among scholars while archeological evidence is indisputable about existance? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.214.101.159 ( talk) 09:53, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
The existence of the hatti(hattusa) kingdom is not seriously disputed. The issue is whether the hatti and the hittite were the same peoples. Currently the general consensus is that the hittites were invaders(possibly peaceful or violent) and eventually became dominant in the area after the hatti were absorbed/killed/exiled(not likely).
And there is rarely such a thing as indisputable evidence. Evidence must always be interpreted according to a framework. You would do well to remember that in your career. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.160.70 ( talk) 04:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
The Hittite verb "suwaiemi" seems to mean "I fill". Experts are welcome to correct me. Three boxes are blank, referring to the verb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.189.240 ( talk) 10:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC) The Infinitive, Participle and Supine boxes are empty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.189.240 ( talk) 09:05, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
A language being Indo-European does not mean much since there are NO sharply defined independant language families.
Please see below:
http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?p=115706#post115706
Humanbyrace ( talk) 19:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
This para confuses singulars and plurals and thus conceals which laryngeals are really meant in the different sentences. HJJHolm ( talk) 08:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
We need reasons (the Phrygian invasions, the "sea peoples," Assyrian military actions) and some description of the decline and gradual extinction of the language. I can approach it from a historical basis but a linguist should provide the material about the technical disappearance of Hittite. If someone's watching this page with the expertise, please respond? Thank you. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 15:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
On a different note, I found this at another historical site: The Hittite kingdom, or at least its core region, was apparently called Hatti in the reconstructed Hittite language. However, the Hittites should be distinguished from the "Hattians," an earlier people who inhabited the same region until the beginning of the second millennium B.C.E., and spoke a non-Indo-European language conventionally called Hattic. To me this would seem to conflict with a statement in the article (which badly needs citations throughout.) HammerFilmFan ( talk) 16:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
How can Hittite 'preserve' any linguistic feature, etc. if Hittite is EXTINCT?
Ignace Gelb's 3-volume work on Hittite and the hieroglyphic monuments are available at University of Chicago. 108.18.136.147 ( talk) 13:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Does Hittite have this distinction in any meaningful way? The example inflection for nouns appears to be thematic from a PIE point of view, but I would expect the more archaic type (athematic) to be more widely represented in Hittite. CodeCat ( talk) 22:33, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
I've just found this paper, which on pp. 26 and 30 mentions a letter written by Hattusili I, described as the only Old Hittite composition which "can be proven to be a true and legally authentic original written when it was first issued". This letter dates to the middle or later 17th century BC (according to the middle chronology at least). The Anitta text should probably not be named as the earliest text as the oldest preserved copy dates only to the 16th century, and its original version may have been written in Akkadian. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
What happened to "assume good faith"? All the scholars say the dagger has an inscription, for a wikipedian to challenge this because they cannot see it in the image is OR argument. The Anitta Text is demonstrably and indisputably a key text for Hittitology and thus deserves some mention here in some form, that's all I'm saying. Do you disagree that Anitta text is demonstrably and indisputably a key text for Hittitology? Philip Mexico ( talk) 13:13, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I have to admit severe sloppiness. Some time ago I found out that the Hattusili I letter is written entirely in Akkadian, too. I finally read parts of the linked paper more closely and it explicitly points out that the listed texts are all in Akkadian. In fact, it posits (and I do remember reading about this some time ago) that Hittite literacy did not start before the (late) 15th century. This also means that Old Hittite is not as old as thought – 15th/14th century then? – and maybe Middle Hittite wasn't really a thing in the first place, and New Hittite is centred on the 13th (and maybe part of the 14th) century. However, this only makes my original point even more forceful: there is good reason to doubt that Hittite was written in the first half of the second millennium BC at all, and the Anitta text can't be said to be "the oldest text in Hittite" in any shape or form. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 02:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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I have removed the section "Diffusion of satem features in Indo-European" because, as far as I can tell, the idea of *ḱu > šu in Hittite is out of date. Wittmann's 1969 article cited there appears to be about "Hieroglyphic Hittite", i.e. not Hittite at all but Luwian, which we still agree did have a sibilant reflex of *ḱ. But there is no mention of this change in Kloekhorst's very thorough 2007 thesis, and he cites four etyma which fail to show it where it would be expected (kunna- p.571, kūtt- / kutt- p.577, {LU}kuu̯an- / kun- p.585, kuu̯ašš- p.585). 4pq1injbok ( talk) 16:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Middle Hittite redirects from “Hittite]”. If you don’t understand, you are free to explore the page. 2A02:C7E:4227:B600:B5DC:BEBB:BDDB:8A28 ( talk) 12:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)