According to Canonical Records of the Jurchen Jin Dynasty, Wanyan Hanpu became a member of the Wanyan Tribe after he successfully stopped an inter-tribe conflict. An old woman of Wanyan Tribe got married with him and created the line of later Jurchen Jin Dynasty's emperors. However, it was his grand grand grand son Wanyan Shilu who became the chieftain of the Wanyan Tribe (《 Canonical Records of the Jurchen Jin Dynasty》:「皇高祖太師」 where 太師 is the official name given by Khitan Liao Dynasty to Jurchen chieftains). Wanyan Hanpu, his son and his grand son (namely Wanyan Wulu and Wanyan Bahai), were merely regular members of the Wanyan Tribe. Wanyan Bahai's son is Wanyan Suike, who was an officer (孛堇, but not yet 太師) of his place according to Canonical Records of the Jurchen Jin Dynasty (皇五代祖孛堇). -- Jiejunkong 23:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
The source document doesn't say that his surname is "Kim" -- in fact, it says that the Jin royal family comes from the "靺鞨 clan" (mohe), but doesn't mention that Hanpu had a surname at all. There isn't any evidence that he was Korean speaking. All it says that he came from Korea/Goryo (the place), and then it talks about the Jurchen and the Bohai being of the same kind - so he could easily be a Chinese or Manchu-speaking Bohai Jurchen. Given that articles on all of his descendants are at their Chinese names, we should be consistent and move this to Shizu of Jin or Hanpu. - PalaceGuard008 ( Talk) 05:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Korean historians recognize the ancestor of the Jin or Geum Empire to have been Gim Hambo (김함보). I will provide a source or piece of evidence that supports this statement by Korea. -- 74.232.227.167 ( talk) 22:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
entire article was based on DELIBERATE mistralations of chinese texts seen on the Jin Dynasty (1115–1234) talk page. it was clearly inserted by nationalist koreans intent on making it seem koreans ruled china, when the chinese editors blew their theory to bits on that talk page they scampered and resorted to creating articles like these, away from the important ones, but be assured, wikipedia is not a platform for korean nationalism and soapboxing. 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
entire article is totally unsourced. i suggest reading the talk page of the article i mentioned, and reading the comments i deleted, and i deleted them for sopaboxing which is against wiki rules and how the chinese editors immedietly disproved the korean nationalist theory.
the koreans desperately want to make it seem that they owned chinese, so they claim the jin dynasty royals were korean.
their deliberate mistranslations were disproved by chinese editors, so they moved their statements to articles like Hanpu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
wikisource has a bunch of text about this dude, none mention ANYTHINg about him being korean, so its permanetly removed. also kprideboi hasnt been on in like 6 months i doubt hell come back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.151.117 ( talk) 03:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I deleted the three following sentences:
-- Madalibi ( talk) 10:27, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
deleting my statement that he was a pure jurchen is also grounds for deleting both sections on how he is "related" to the silla royal family which is totally unsourced, and no source has been found for tis nationalist rant for over a year. its obvious since the article was created by a korean they want to make him seem korean. if it were suddenly discovered that he invented the dildo, or penis pump, id doubt they would be so quick to claim hes korean again....
金之始祖諱函普,初從高麗來(in the history of Jin(金史))
--Korsentry 05:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC)