"He is the son of Three Dog Night's Danny Hutton[15] and former member of the band Wires on Fire, who knew Este socially." - who knew Este? Hutton, or Wires on Fire? If that latter, wouldn't it be the members of the band who knew Este?--
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Much of the Reception section is more like the musical style section. Also, this sentence, "The group have become friends with singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, and together they have visited Catalina and Maui, Hawaii.[53]," is out of place, as it does not belong in this section.--
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That's a good question. I'm not sure. I'm thinking it might be best to mention this, maybe with some wording changes, in the part where the "2014-present" section mentions Haim's appearances on Taylor Swift's tour.--
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Citations do not follow a consistent format. For instance, reference 3 reads ""Jewish singers Haim tipped as Sound of 2013". The Jewish Chronicle.]", reference 4 reads "Dodero, Camille (30 September 2013). "Falling for Haim". Spin. Retrieved 21 October 2014." and reference 5 reads "Campion, Freddie (February 28, 2012). "Band of the Week: HAIM". Vogue (New York City, USA: Condé Nast Publications). Retrieved December 12, 2012." The second and third examples both are acceptable, but the citations should follow a consistent format. Also, the Spin citation doesn't italicize the publication, and the Jewish Chronicle citation has a stray bracket.--
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Now I don't believe this is actually part of the GA criteria, as far as I can tell you just need inline citations, and only then to information challenged or likely to be challenged, although for an article about a group of young, living people, that's more or less everything. Then consistent citations are part of the FA criteria. Still, it won't hurt to take the wikifork and the wikitrowel to this lot, so I'll get back to you!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)21:56, 8 February 2015 (UTC)reply
The criteria link to
WP:IC, which states "There are many ways to add inline citations to an article. Each is acceptable under Wikipedia's citation style guideline, but a single article should use only one type." If this does not apply to GAs, I apologize for bringing it up here, but I figured since the criteria link to that guideline then what is given there is a GA requirement.--
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Generally I will list any work that I think will improve the article, then fall back on the GA criteria if things become difficult or onerous. In this case, the work was a bit too gnomish for my liking, but I've swapped all citations over to US dates now.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Yeah, I don't think I added this, but generally I avoid citing official sites, as apart from being primary sources, they tend to deteriorate into dead links far too quickly when compared to news or magazine sites.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)16:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Good to get a clean bill of health on "stability" - since the group have been nominated for a Grammy, the results of which are (IIRC) being announced today, the viewing traffic has exploded (it's on about 8,000 views per day at the mo) and as you can see from the history, keeping the article at GA status on the queue while defending it from good faith but non GA compliant edits from IPs and newbies has been .... challenging!
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)16:10, 8 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Right now, the article uses the band name as a plural noun, although technically in American English
collective nouns are nearly always used in the singular. For GA criteria this is not necessary, as it is a stylistic issue, but if this article is an FA it should conform to American English standards. For the record, I, as an American, often use collective nouns as plurals, but apparently in formal American English this is incorrect.--
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Oh yeah, that :-/ .... does that mean the first paragraph in the lead changes to "The group's pop sound on its studio work stands in contrast to the more rock-based music of its live shows"?
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)17:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)reply