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I worked with the late ex-major league pitcher George "Red" Munger. George and I were very close. Our offices were adjacent and we spent many hours talking about baseball. We exchanged gifts for Christmas every year and I still remember his birthday every year October 4th, or as he called it CB day (10-4). When he passed away in 1996 at the age of 79 the presiding priest used a story that I had told him in has remarks. It was about George and Jackie Robinson. He picked Jackie off second for the third out of the 8th inning before delivering a pitch to the plate...in a tied game in which he was pinch hit for in the ninth and the Cardinals won as a result . Under current rules would he be the winning pitcher of a game in which he did't deliver a pitch to the plate?
I only go into such detail on my relationship with George is to set up George's comment on Gil Hodges. He said that Gil was the greatest catcher. The only player he would compare him to was Johnny Bench. However, Campy could not play another position beside catcher and Gil was a fabulous first baseman. His question (as well as mine) is that had Hodges been "The Catcher" of his generation and won the 1969 Series, how long would he have been in the Hall of Fame?
If he was a catcher, with those offensive numbers in that era, he would have been elected on the first ballot for which he was eligible. As it is, there are two firstbaseman with comparable statistics, who were elected to the Hall (Perez and Cepeda), and it's a damned shame that Gil wasn't put in before them, AND before he died. I think some of it had to do with his not-so-warm relationship with the New York sportswriters. Gil was not very talkative as Mets manager, gave them few quotes to work with, even in that championship year of 1969. Many times reporters would storm out of his office after games, angry because they couldn't get a usable "line" from him. All these years later, I don't think the current crop of eligible voters even know who he is, or how he dominated the NL at 1B for six or seven years during the late 40's and early to mid 50's. I hope he makes it into the Hall next year. This man has deserved it for 50 years and has been denied so many times. If Whitey Herzog got in for winning just one world series as a manager, then Hodges belongs there too because of his superior playing career AND the World Series he won as manager of a ballclub with a .242 team batting average in 1969. -- 167.206.169.66 ( talk) 17:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.206.169.66 ( talk) 17:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I changed his birth name from Hodge to Hodges as shown on [www.gilhodges.com/bio.htm www.gilhodges.com], the official website for him. Is there anything supporting the name 'Hodge', or was it a typo?
If the article lead is only going to have one last name (which is probably better, having both variations seems clunky), shouldn't it be Hodge as that was his legal birth name and was never actually changed throughout his life? Is there a general policy on names when a person is commonly known by one name as opposed to his actual legal name? Gilbert Raymond Hodge was his legal name, and it was never changed. As far as I'm aware, no one really knows why he was and is commonly known as Gil Hodges. Orpheus42 08:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
“22:16, 4 April 2008 MisfitToys (Talk | contribs) (26,072 bytes) (nationality must always be noted in intro of bio articles) (undo)
“21:01, 5 April 2008 MisfitToys (Talk | contribs) (26,072 bytes) (rv; this is standard accepted formatting for baseball bio articles; the phrase Major League Baseball must always be capitalized and linked) (undo)”
Before saying what I was thinking, I checked the page for formatting baseball articles at WikiProject_Baseball, and guess what? Your rules don’t exist. Not the “standard accepted formatting,” not the capitalizing and linking of Major League Baseball (“always linked”?!), and certainly not using the abbreviation “NL,” instead of the term.
So, I figured this is your own horrible style, and checked out one of the baseball articles you listed in boldface as having worked on. Guess what? Not even you mentioned nationality. So, what gives? Please don’t make up rules, or strive to make baseball articles unreadable. 24.90.201.232 ( talk) 03:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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It's a stretch to say the team improved each year (the wins in '65 and '66 were 70 and 71), so I'd prefer if we just stated the more factual "win totals went up each year" - which they did, even if it was barely true in '66 and they had a really low bar to clear each year. Fred Zepelin ( talk) 05:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)