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Just noticed that changeling (perhaps symptomatic of Wikipedia's membership...) consisted entirely of text about a Star Trek character... Added a small stub about European legends, but don't know too much about it. Hope someone here can help, 2toise 08:00, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Mythical doesn't necessarily imply false. According to dictionary.com:
"Myth n.
1.a. A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society."
However, not everyone thinks of that definition, so I suggest the term " chimerical" or " praeternatural." Firstly, the terms fit. Secondly, people will probably look the terms up, thus expanding their vocabularies. :) Dustin Asby 14:06, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Also, check out Sprite (creature) for a somewhat substantial list of creatures (and to help me organize and link it). Dustin Asby 14:16, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The introduction should be both expanded and split, as the first sentence is aspecific enough to merit placing fairy as a redirect for Mythologic Creatures, while the rest of the intro talks about etymology (which deserves a special section, as it's long and has many good points) and glamour (an entire article on its own). -Iro
I have temporarily removed the Irish Fairy section, as it was out of place. I think that this should be the central article for a faerie category, as the Irish are not the only culture with fairies. Further, discussion of Irish Fairies should go in its own article (on the sidhe) unless we are going to include short pieces on every culture's version of fairies. That, of course, is a large and tedious task, especially considering that there are already articles for the various other ethnocentric fairy mythologies. I'll put this section back in if a reason arises for Irish Fairies to be covered here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.244.131.111 ( talk) 19:24, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
The "Fairies in..." sections of this article are out of control. I intend to be doing some judicious pruning and rewriting of them shortly. If anyone has any suggestions, please make them here. Nandesuka 13:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I've been noticing a lot of edits recently (a gradually increasing number since the article was first cleaned up from its original run-on junkiness) with very little consensus on edits. So, for our editting pleasure, I'm going to compose a list of things that need to be taken care of:
Introductory Definition: This has been editted a great deal with little citation and lots of minor details. This definition, given the faerie nature of vagueness, should give a brief summary of the article with a *brief* explanation of what fae were originally (see elf, nymph, angel, etc.), then go on about modern conceptions (small, insect-winged yada yada) and associations (trolls).
Etymology: I will admit that when I entered this section, it was too long for the scope of this article, though the word history reflects several key aspects of fairy character. While the Farsi "Pari" comment keeps coming back, I think it and "fey" should be put into subsections of the etymology concerning controversy.
Fairies in Literature, etc.: I'm glad that we've editted this section down quite a bit, though I'm not happy with how sloppily short it is. Fairy is, after all, the category article and, while it should give plenty of links to its respective articles, should give the most information on the basics of the subject. I move that we have a decent paragraph (at the least) on the topics of "Fairies in Literature," "Fairies in Art," etc. I also think we should try to take from the Elves page the idea of detailed accounts of the history of this folklore (and, since this is the category article, not limit ourselves to, say, Anglo-Celtic fay). That means laying out key points that are common in faerie mythology, from magic to depictions to whatever else is necessary.
Pictures: I'm glad that we're trying to pull pictures into this article. However, the pictures don't seem to work well with each other. -->"Take the Fair Face of a Woman" has been the article's key picture for who knows how long, yet this is about the only place I have ever seen it. -->Digital Art: Who found this? Is this public domain? Should we be using something more "historic" (say, 10 years+ in age) to show this? -->Angsalvor: This picture can be found on the Elves page and, while I like it and think it has plenty of merit for the subject at hand, I wonder if it's a good idea to recycle it.
-- Iro 19:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Someone keeps reverting to uncited statements, such as "Although in modern culture they are often depicted as beautiful young females, they originally had quite a different image as haggard old women or mischievous old men." That statement as a whole demands extensive citation, as a.) that's talking about many, many cultures and b.) from what I've found is discussing multiple types of things that are equally labeled "fairy." Please, if you're going to revise and you add something as extreme as that, cite your sources. A good book to look into: The Great Encyclopedia of Faeries by Pierre Dubois. Though he devotes a major portion of the book to French fae, he actually tries to discuss fae (and other spirits, if you wish to not class them as fae) from other cultures. Guess what: most of them are beautiful females! Hags exist as an archetype within or connected to that of faerie, but don't say that all fae were originally hags and old men, as that's simply not true. Iro 17:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
As for the use of the word "spirit," in anthropology the word "spirit" simply means "a supernatural being," just as it can in normal usage -- it doesn't necessarily reflect a corporeal or incorporeal essence in any usage. For example, the words "kami" and "youkai" in Japanese are both translated as "spirit" (the former is often translated as "god," though it could also be interpreted as "genius," especially "genius loci;" the latter is also given as "demon," "apparition," or the like). Really, I don't see what's so outlandish about labeling fairies as spirits. Iro 20:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
4. a. One of a class of supernatural beings of diminutive size, in popular belief supposed to possess magical powers and to have great influence for good or evil over the affairs of man. See ELF and FAY n.2
I have waited for a few weeks and you have yet to reply, so I am reverting the article as promised. Iro 07:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I see there have been contributions. I shall then not revert the article, instead just editing as per usual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iro~enwiki ( talk • contribs) 07:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Having looked at some parts of the OED, the Fey vs. Fae argument should be amended somewhat. The spelling proper of Fae (and Faerie) are only roughly standardized through history, even during the reformatory parts. Fey is listed as doomed to die, though some other sources of variable repute make other claims on the subject. I think we should divide the etymology and spelling sections, citing many sources on the subject.
Having found that "fey" can also mean "enchanted," "clairvoyant," or "marked by a magical or otherworldly quality" and that the "doomed to die" meaning is mainly Scottish, I move that this section be revised.
The American Heritage Dictionary mentions the magical quality and gives a word history.( http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fey)
-Also there is an issue that Fay points here, and seems to lack a page for itself. This is an issue, as Fay and Fey are also last names, and names of corporations and towns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.69.203.112 ( talk) 20:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Are there male fairies? Are they called fairies or something else? Does anyone know? Thanx!
Mariah+kyle=love [IMG] http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/babygrl1_bucket/thththglitterhearts.gif[/IMG] I have attempted to add the 'Aziza', which Wikipedia does include in a brief passage, but it has been deleted several times, when I attempted it. I am concerned and do not understand why this would be deleted when it is in fact faerie lore. There was some mention of not adding external links, however there is an edit button that allows additions to the section that leads readers further into areas of fae listed on Wikipedia which is where I included it. Can anyone help? Is this something only an admin can add? If so can it be added for the connoseiurs of fae? Thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.0.143 ( talk)
HI there,
i added the original entry for fairy and was just editing it to add the info regarding a midsummer nights dream - and discovered someone else was doing the same thing at that very moment... who are you? :)
Sorry about that. Saw a gap and leapt in. If you're working on something it's useful to put a to be continued marker in it! sjc
Oh No worries at all - just interesting, coz I added the original entry ages ago, and just decided to add something :) (CatS - i don't actually have an account, perhaps I should create one.)
Goblins etc?
There are about a million different ways we are spelling "fairy" in this article. Can we vote to spell it one way consistently throughout the article? Otherwise it looks kind of shoddy.-- TurabianNights 23:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Can we get consensus here that "Dazjae" is not notable enough to warrant inclusion in this article? A myspace page does not a music career make. Nandesuka 03:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I have rewritten the "modern culture and film" laundry list as a paragraph, and culled it to only the most notable examples. If anyone feels I culled too much, feel free to add notable examples back in, but I urge you to not revert to the "laundry list" format. Nandesuka 12:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I think that if someone wants to include another example in this section, perhaps he or she should prove its notability here.
For instance, can we discuss why these works might be considered important or vastly different from what has already been mentioned? What does mentioning these works add to the article?
-- TurabianNights 18:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I got my BA in Classics (Reed College, '96) and, while I've seen dictionaries with the Etymology from Latin as being from "fata" (Fates), I've never heard any convincing explanation for this. I consulted with another Classist who is a Latin expert, and she can't see any way that "fairy" could come from "fata". Not only can neither one of us find any morphology that would transmute "fata" to "fairy" (I mean how does the "t" become an "r"?), but it doesn't really make any sense that stories about what seem to be spirits would have anything to do with the 3 Fates of Greco-Roman mythology. Moreover, since as far as I know Fairy folklore comes from the British Isles, I don't know of any reason that the word would come from Latin in particular, as opposed to from German or Celtic. The stories seem similar to Elf stories from Germanic cultures, and there were numerous Germans on the British Isles ever since Roman hegemony lapsed -- not only Anglo-Saxons, but numerous Vikings as well as Jutes and others. So why not see the word as coming directly from "fair", which is a good German word? "Fairy" would then mean one who is fair.
Could "fairy" be a similar formation to "browny", interpretting "browny" to mean literally one who is brown? ("Brown" also comes from German.) Also, in the South (of the USA), there is folklore about "blackies". These are NOT African Americans. They're spirits, sort of like elves, fairies, brownies and the like. If "blacky" stories came from the British Isles as well, is it possible that we have spirits in three colors: fair (taken as meaning "white"), brown and black? Is it then possible that these three types of spirits are the three types of elves: light, dark and black? In other words, is it possible that the folkloric tradition of fairies actually came from the folklore of elves from the Teutonic peoples who settled the British Isles during the Dark Ages?
- Ivan Richmond
In the Cottingley Fairies section, the article reads: "Griffiths and Wright were then given 24 photographic plates and took three more photos in August 1920. They blamed constant rainfall, but..." There is no explanation of what was being blamed on rainfall. The same can be said of the (better referenced) source article, Cottingley Fairies. Both articles need to be changed in this paragraph (and this one shortened significantly in this section, as suggested above by another user). - dcljr ( talk) 17:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Could someone add detail to this?
Definition of faeries Faerie : from the Latin term for "fate" (fata), faeries (or fairies) are a "host of supernatural beings and spirits who occupy a limbo between earth and heaven" (Guiley). This is in recognition of the skill faeries had in predicting and even controlling human destiny. Faeries could be either good or evil creatures, and at various points in history have been confused with witches and demons
Fay or fey is the archaic term for faerie meaning bewitched or enchanted. This word derives from 'Fays' meaning Fates, and thought to be a broken form of Fatae. 'Fay-erie' was first a state of enchantment or glamour, and was only later used for the fays who wielded those powers of illusion. The state of enchantment is fayerie, which became fairy and faerie.
Other terms :
Fair Folk is a welsh name, often used in litterature and in scandinavian myths.
Good Neighbours is from Scotland. It had its origin in a desire to give no unnecessary offense. The `folk' might be listening, and were pleased when people spoke well of them, and angry when spoken of slightingly. The same feeling made the Irish Celt call them `honest folk' (Daoine Coire) or `good people' (Daoine Matha).
The Green Children was used in medieval litterature and versions of it is often used in modern Fantasy litterature.This theme has many variations like Greenies, Greencoaties and others.
The Old People refers as Faerie lived on earthlong before Mankind.
The Silent People (the people of peace, the still folk, or silently-moving people) comes from the Irish and Scottish Gaelic, the sith people. The name sith refers to `peace' or silence of Airy motion, as contrasted with the stir and noise accompanying the movements and actions of men. The Fairies come and go with noiseless steps, and their thefts or abductions are done silently and unawares to men.
Elf (ves) means also faerie and derived from the word alfarfrom the Nordic and Teutonic languages which is associated with mountains and water. This clearly illustrates the close relationship between faeries and the earth.
More generally, Faerie applies to four kind of entities : Enchanters and enchantresses with supernatural powers. Certain monsters and demons having a connection with fairies and/or having some of the characteristics of fairies. See the origin of Fairies Nature fairies: Faeries were believed to be some of the spirits which populate all places and objects on Earth. The nature fairies are mermaids, water-spirits, tree-spirits and such.· Faerie people (mainly the subject of this section) or the true Fairy, or Elfin race. The Fairies, according to the Scoto-Celtic belief, are a race of beings, the counterparts of mankind in person, occupations, and pleasures, but unsubstantial and unreal, ordinarily invisible, noiseless in their motions, and having their dwellings underground, in hills and green mounds of rock or earth. They are addicted to visiting the haunts of men, sometimes to give assistance, but more frequently to take away the benefit of their goods and labours, and sometimes even their persons. They may not be present in any company, though mortals do not see them. Their interference is never productive of good in the end, and may prove destructive. Men cannot therefore be sufficiently on their guard against them.
Trooping and solitary faeries In order to classify the faerie characters in the stories, the race is divided up into two groups: the peasantry and the aristocracy; trooping and solitary. It is a distinction that hold good throughout the British Isles, and is indeed valid wherever fairy beliefs are held. The peasantry is made up of the solitary faeries that are believed to have descended from spirits who made up all of nature. Although they had some of the same powers as their more prestigious relatives, i.e. the ability to become invisible and shape-change, they were known to be more wild and capricious. Fortunately, true encounters with mortals were relatively rare, instead their presence were most often announced by evidence of the creatures’ activity. It was believed the bending of the grass, the rustling sounds of tree branches, and the glittering patterns of frost on windows could be attributed to their nearness.
The Faerie aristocracy was very different from their isolated cousins. They were known as trooping faeries because they travelled in long processions. These faeries are believed to be descendents of ancient, vanquished gods. They dwell in underground kingdoms or across the deepest seas.The trooping faycan be large or small, friendly or sinister. They tend to wear green jackets, while the Solitary Faery wear red jackets. They can range from the Heroic Faery to the dangerous and malevolent Sluagh.
In many cultures like those in Scandinavia and Scotland, they subdivided the aristocracy into good and evil. However, there is no distinction between the good and evil faeries in Wales and Ireland. They were called the Tylwyth Teg (Fair Family) and the Daine Side (Dwellers of the Faerie Mounds) respectively. The Irish have the most complete accounts of the trooping faeries hidden within their many songs and folktales.
Faeries across history and cultures The antiquity of the belief is shown by its being found among all branches of the Celtic and Teutonic families, and in countries which haven’t had, within historical times, any communication with each other. If it be no entirely of Celtic origin, there can be no doubt that among the Celtic races it acquired an importance and influence accorded to it nowhere else. Of all the beings, with which fear or fancy peopled the supernatural, the Fairies were the most intimately associated with men's daily life.
Throughout most of these former celtic nations : Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany and Germany, the Fairies have become things of the past. A common belief is that they existed once, though they are not now seen. There are others to whom the elves have still a real existence, and who are careful to take precautions against them. It would be difficult to find a person who knows the whole Fairy creed, but the tales of one district are never contradictory of those of another and are still present even if they sometimes remain as a confused jumbling of all superstitions.
The dismiss of Fairies From the XVIII century onwards, the fairies have been said to have departured or to be in decline. People do not see them any more and some argue that the Faeries will eventually disappear as men have stopped believing in them. Other put forward pollution, urbanization, science as the main causes for their disparition. Yet, however often they may be reported as gone, the fairies still linger. In Ireland the fairy beliefs are still part of the normal texture of life; in the Highlands, Islands or Brittany the traditions continue.
Somewhere at the beginning of the 19th century, Hugh Miller recorded what was supposed to be the final departure of the fairies from Scotland at Burn of Eathie.
On a Sabbath morning... the inmates of this little hamlet had all gone to church, all except a herd-boy, and a little girl, his sister, who were lounging beside one of the cottages; when, just as the shadow of the garden-dial had fallen on the line of noon, they saw a long cavalcade ascending out of the ravine through the wooded hollow. It winded among the knolls and bushes; and, turning round the northern gable of the cottage beside which the sole spectators of the scene were stationed, began to ascend the eminence toward the south. The horses were shaggy, diminutive things, speckled dun and grey; the riders, stunted, misgrown, ugly creatures, attired in antique jerkins of plaid, long grey cloaks, and little red caps, from under which their wild uncombed locks shot out over their cheeks and foreheads. The boy and his sister stood gazing in utter dismay and astonishment, as rider after rider, each one more uncouth and dwarfish than the one that had preceded it, passed the cottage, and disappeared among the brushwood which at that period covered the hill, until at length the entire rout, except the last rider, who lingered a few yards behind the others, had gone by. 'What are ye, little mannie? and where are ye going?' inquired the boy, his curiosity getting the better of his fears and his prudence. 'Not of the race of Adam,' said the creature, turning for a moment in his saddle: 'the People of Peace shall never more be seen in Scotland.'
Hugh Miller, The Old Red Sandstone
Description of Fairies Faeries are often portrayed in Western children’s stories as tiny, winged, and good hearted. However, this description varies widely from worldwide folk traditions in which beliefs concerning hidden races sharing the earth with us have resided for most of human history.
Within different regions different descriptions of faeries grew, all were more or less human in form although sometimes taller or shorter, but never bearing wings. Much of their behaviour was much like humans as well; they had governments, societies, marriages, children, and war. They were often mortal and therefore, could be killed. However, unlike humanity, they had supernatural powers, which made them, at best, unpredictable and at worst, dangerous. Few people sought out the company of faeries and most went out of the way to avoid it.
The size of faeries The difference in size ascribed to the race has strangely greatly varied according to time and local customs. At one time the elves are small enough to creep through keyholes, and a single potato is as much as one of them can carry; at another they resemble mankind, with whom they form alliances, and to whom they hire themselves as servants; while some are even said to be above the size of mortals, giants, in whose lap mortal women are mere infants. The same peculiarity exists in Teutonic belief. At times the elf is a dwarfish being that enters through key-holes and window-slits; at other times a great tall man. In Scandinavia, the Troll may appear in one tale as a Giant greater than two men and in another as a small dwarf..
'''''Organization of fairies''''' There are many different fairie organizations. Each has its own hierarchy and local legends. [[ Scotland]] Fairies can also be divided into the Seelie court and the Unseelie court.
The Seelie court, or the blessed court, a group of rather beneficial spirits, is friendly towards humans. The Seelie Court are some of the more aristrocratic fairies, and are known as tropping, or heroic fairies. Scottish folklore presents them as a huge host of light and benevolence riding on the night air.
The Unseelie Court or Unblessed Court contains the most malicious, malevolent and evil of the fairies, and a number of monsters of horrible appearance and fearsome abilities as well. They comprise the Slaugh, or The Host, the band of the unsanctified dead who fly above the earth, stealing mortals and take great pleasure in harming humans. Some Scottish legends say they were all once members of the Seelie Court who fell from grace. The Court travels on the night winds from where their unnerving cackles and howls can be heard. They have no method of reproduction, so they enslave mortals whom they think would never be missed and carry them along to become one of them.
The Seelie Court and its counterpart, the Unseelie Court are often at war,and humans may get caught in the middle of such battles. They acquired the title "Court" because they also act as arbiters and judges in fairy disputes.
[[ Ireland]] The great Tuatha de Danann of Ireland flead to Tir Nan Og after their defeat by the Milesians, however those who remained in Ireland became the Daoine Sidhe. Side (Shee) is gaelic for 'people of the hills'. Orriginally it referred to the mounds in which faeries lived, though it has now come to refer to the inhabitants as well. Their king is Finvarra, who like all of his clan is a skilled warrior. He is also fond of chess playing and women. Despite the fact that his wife, Donagh, is one of the most beautiful women above or below the ground, he is known to abduct brides-to-be. Like the Seelie Court, the Daoine Sidhe, enjoy riding and are famous for their fairie steeds, which can carry a rider faster than the wind over land or water.
Another group of fairies in Ireland inhabit the Lough Lean. their ruler is O'Donoghue who rides forth from the lake every May Day on a war steed to ride into the surrounding mist.
[[ Wales]] Whales has perhaps more clans of fairies than any other area. In Glastonburry Tor, famous from Arturian legends, Gwyn ap Nudd rules over the Plant Annwn (roughly- family of hades). Long ago, on every New Year's Day, a door would appear in the side of a great rock next to a certain lake. Those who entered found that it lead to a passage that ended on the island in the middle of the lake. This island was a beatiful garden kept by the Gwrgedd Annwn, who would serve wonderful food to the travelers and treat them as honored guests. They warned the fortunate mortals that the doorway was a secret and that nothing could be taken from the garden. One mortal took a single flower from the garden and as soon as he touched the soil of earth, all of the other other travelers were expelled and the doorway was closed, never to reopen again.
[[ '''''Brittany''''']] Brittany has several classes of Fairies, the most popular being the Korrigans who have been counted to be more than 10,000 in the past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavender Potter ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
This section is inordinately long for what, after all, was only a minor incident in the history of fairy lore. Especially as we have another article to refer them to. Is there any reason why a "See also" link is not enough? Goldfritha 15:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Strictly, there should be distinctions between the usage of the two words "fae" and "faerie."
Sez who? This needs at the very least a citation, and probably an attribution in the text. Goldfritha 03:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Is this article about the beings historically known as fairies, in the folklore of France, Great Britain, etc., or about beings of that nature world-wide? If the first, I think it needs to be made clear in the lede, and cleaned up. And the second -- actually, I think we would need a separate article for that specific folklore, and the second is really more suitable for a list than an article like this. Goldfritha 20:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Any comment of the type "In Xyz culture, fairies are known as abcs" does not belong in this article. If they are noteworthy, create an "abc" article about them. Otherwise, there will be confusion, because the parallels to fairies in other cultures are not exact; many parallel folkloric beings are not afraid of iron, or do not leave changelings for human babies, and to put them into this article as "fairies" asserts that they do. Goldfritha 23:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I am probably going to purge the "See also" sections to limit it to those links that actually illuminate this article -- and do it soon. Goldfritha 23:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Goldfritha (et al) - When adding in sources I'd appreciate it if you could also include the year and publisher of the book, and the publisher location. Also, the list of sources is incredibly long, and full of repeat cites. I've made a start on compressing them, but I'd really appreciate it if you could look at the format I've used of naming the citations. That way, when one is a repeat, you can just include the abbreviated form. Thanks! ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦ ♫ 05:05, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The corrrect name of this painting is "Meadow elves" not "Faries of the Meadow" BigEyedFish 02:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know whether this is of any use to the article but here it is for your perusal. [1] 217.42.192.46 00:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Instead of worrying about how "notable" or not a modern fairy mention is, why not do what every other mythical creature page has done and simply create a separate page for pop culture references? Then it wouldn't matter how many people added their own material. It makes more sense to me and is more democratic. I edit the Will-o'-the-wisps in popular culture article and it already has 62 mentions. Serendipodous 11:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Nice photos, but Neville Colmore appears to be fictitious. Sole source is the creator of this Flickr photoset, which cites "the famed American explorer and author, Walter Traprock ... best known for the popular accounts of his scientific expeditions published in the 1920's, Cruise of the Kawa, Sarah of the Sahara and My Northern Exposure" (this Walter Traprock and [2]). 86.140.110.216 11:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
There are only two (media) external links now? Did I miss something? Is there a new policy I'm not aware of?
Xineann 13:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Xineann 14:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Why has no one mentioned Rev Robert Kirk's The Secret Commonwealth? This is Kirk's account of his time amongst the Elfane/faery at Aberfolye Stirling in 18th century Scotland.
Well, I rather think that Rev. Kirk and his book are quite worthy of mention here. At the very least, even if we regard fairies as a curiosity or as a literary and legendary invention, Rev. Kirk's book established the groundwork for a lot of fairy literature and fiction. No less a writer than Andrew Lang used it as source material, and Lang was a direct influence on many modern fantasy authors. And personally, if Wikipedia can treat Jenna Jameson seriously then certainly poor old Rev. Robert deserves an entry! Happydog 04:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I've bought a book from Target called "Fairyopolis" and it's a journal on fairies. It's about a woman named Cicely Mary Barker and she discovers these fairies in her garden or somewhere else. There's a page where there's a mini field guide about fairy. And it said that fairy came from the latin word "fata" meaning "fate." In different places, they call fairies in different names like faeries, fey, fay, the Little Folk and The good people. Would this information be true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roxy2k7 ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Should this page be split on a cultural basis? Some cultures e.g. Celtic use the word Faerie to describe a type of Tolkienesque Elf while others (English) use Fairy to describe a tiny winged woman e.g. Tinkerbell. Much confusion. Needs to be sorted out, I'm not enough of an authority... Megamanic 03:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Read Katherine Briggs - 'The Fairies in Tradition & Literature' if you want to sort this messy page out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.125.126.127 ( talk) 19:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
...while an important 20th century fiction concerned with fairies, is not at all relevant to fairy 'origins'. It is virtually certain that Barrie's 'baby's laughter' is his own whimsy & is absent from any relevant traditions or beliefs.
I both agree and disagree. In context of the rest of the article, I think Barry's concept might have played a huge part in the modern view of fairies as being positive, happy, pleasant mythical beings. Historical myths would often say otherwise. Therefore, this should probably be incorporated in the article while it should be placed somewhere else. 70.185.98.72 ( talk) 10:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The infobox used in this article seems to be out of place. "First report" "in folklore" seems like a waste of space. The article should treat the topic as a folklore one, not in some woo-woo "supernatural is maybe real, who reported seeing this creature" sort of way. The existence of the supernatural creatures infobox in the first place seems to be in a way a violation of WP:FRINGE, as it seems to be there to push a view. Isn't there a more suitable infobox? DreamGuy ( talk) 14:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
fairys are mystical creatures that some people beleive in i personly think there real except the tooth fairy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.109.157.169 ( talk) 23:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Since this article suffers from chronic anonymous vandalism (i.e. nearly all of the edits), I requested semi-protection for it... and the admins' response was to protect it for two whole days. Apparently someone doesn't grasp the concept of "chronic". I'm taking it off my watchlist; too much noise. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 23:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Are fairies believed to have an ambiguous sexuality? It may seem like a strange question but, I have a copy of a New Year's greeting card from the late 1800s early 1900s which has two female child fairies kissing on the mouth. Leveroom444 16:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Isn't to be fae essencially to be free? They aren't bound by our rules regarding things such as sexuality. 92.9.59.48 ( talk) 16:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Some more fairies in literature: Relating to the Brothers Grimm allegedly purging their fairy tales from fairies, I must contradict: As I am German and know "Dornröschen" from my childhood (that one has sources in French and Catalan; you may know the story from the Disney film "Sleeping Beauty"), the plot is constituted by the action of fairies: At the christening of a baby princess, twelve faries are invited but a thirteenth one is not, for a shortage of dishes. But the thirteenth fairy is so angry about it that she puts a spell on the princess: the age of fifteen she must die. One of the other fairies changes the spell from death to a hundred years' sleep. And so it works out. "Wise women", human beings, would not have such power; and witches are never any good in German fairy tales.
a noted novel by E. Th. A. Hoffmann: "Klein Zaches, genannt Zinnober". It deals with a boy who is an ugly hunchback with a mean, foolish soul; but a bypassing fairy who has pity on him gives him a gift: everbody who looks at him should see him as a handsome, charming, clever guy. Endowed with this vantage, he fools everybody and makes a big career and is a great womanizer, until the fairy gets word that he misuses his gift, and she takes it from him again. so that he is seen as as miserable as he really is.This plot gives the author a lot of room to entensively and ironically describe how career can be made with superficial gifts (irony is a common trait in the works of German Romantic authors.)
But what puzzles me most: Why is there no paragraph "Fairies in Music"? There would be a long list from folk songs to oparas like "Oberon" to Rock 'n Roll (e. g. "Bridget the Midget, the Queen of the Blues")? Why is there no mention of that beautiful, enchanting celtic folk tune named "King of the Fairies"? I think it should even have an article of its own! - Wolfram, 149.225.72.156 ( talk) 07:48, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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How about having divisions for different cultures' ideas of fairies? And the history of belief in them? Around the time of the Scottish Reformation Scottish fairy belief started to change quite substantially, for example. Just a thought - Egoinos
Indeed. According to my mother people in India have beleived in fairies for hundreds of years (they call them 'fo-rees'with a very soft f). Fairies in India are also associated with flora, the beleif being that the prettiest of flower gardens have a presence. I know people first hand that have attributed some possessions and even deaths to malevolent fairy posessions.
I AM FROM AFGHANISTAN AND WE TOO BELIEVE IN FAIRIES.IN AFGHAN LEGEND THEY ARE CALLED 'SHU FIRAI'WHICH TRANSLATED MEANS GOOD FAIRY,THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY BEUTIFULL BUT HIDDEN PEOPLE.ONLY APPEARING WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO GUIDE LOST TRAVELLERS AND PEOPLE IN NEED.THEY CAN ALSO BE BAD,TAKING GOOD LOOKING CHILDREN IN THE NIGHT NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN.WHAT THEY DO WITH THE CHILDREN IS UNKNOWN.
I am an American Indian woman. Few people realize how many tribes tell tales about indigenous little people with magical attributes very much like the European fairy. Just looking at the tribes in my own family, the Yaquis (Yoeme) tell of the Surem, the Diegue~nos (Kumeyaay) tell of the Eeyaopoo, and the Muskogee tell of little people who help medicine men find herbs. I'm finding out that other tribes (including indigenous Hawaiian) have their own stories. For references, see Muriel Thayer Painter's "With Good Heart" (Surem), and David Lewis Jr. & Anne T. Jordan's "Creek Medicine ways (Muskogee little people.) I'm afraid I have only anecdotal accounts of the Eeyapoo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreamdeer ( talk • contribs) 03:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
From the article: "This belief has prompted some historians and mythological commentators to speculate that the fairies are actually derived from a folk memory of the people that inhabited the island of Great Britain before the Celts arrived. These people would have been armed only with stone, and hence iron would have been the decisive Celtic advantage."
Does anyone know any actual scholars or historians that have ever suggested this? This seems connected with an idea that the "little people" were pre-Celtic people in the British Isles, too, or that the Picts were (and that these people were also apparently small in stature despite the fact that skeletons we have from that time don't suggest that, and we have a number of skeletons that would be freakishly large people even today). I've never seen any scholars suggest this but I seen it come out of many people with a questionable understanding of Celtic history (usually people who would also like to paint the Celts as noble matriarchal savages...). Also, if the "little people" and allied beings were just mythologised pre-Celtic people the Celtic cultures would then have been absent of "little people" type beings before then, which isn't likely as all other people related to the Celts also had them (The Germanic elves/alfar for instance). Iron is also a Pan-Indo-European counter against ill things in general so the idea would seem likely to have been around before the Celts found non-iron bearing people to conquer.
Roman origins of Fairy myth?: I heard a completely different version of what the word Fairy originally meant and the origins of the fairy myths. I don't recall where I heard this and it was many years ago that I heard it so I'm wondering if anyone else has heard this version. From what I recall, when the Romans conquered the Celts in what is now England, it was covered with forests and a relatively wild place by Roman standards. Those Celts who did not wish to submit to Roman rule moved deep into the forests and hid themselves there, forming communities that lived in tree houses high enough to escape the notice of any Romans who might wander in searching for them and these communities lasted througout the Roman occupation. The Romans tended to be darker skinned than the Celts, with darker hair and brown eyes, while the Celts were blonde, blue eyed and very white skinned. The Romans of course were aware that these Celts were out there but they didn't put a lot of effort into going after them because they controlled the parts they wanted and they weren't that eager to go deep into the forests. The word fairy somehow evolved from the fact that the Celts were fair-skinned, blue-eyed blonde people. The myths of their powers were the result of Roman mothers warning their children not to go too deep into the woods, for fear that the Celts living there would steal them or kill them. In order to make them fearful, they would tell the children that these mysterious people had all kinds of supernatural powers. From these tales the myth of the fairy/elves evolvled over the centuries. Has anyone else ever heard this version? Does anyone know of any scholarly work that suggests this or at least has taken a look at it? 65.171.135.50 20:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Thomas Pendergast
Thanks Goldfritha. I appreciate your input but I should point out that I didn't say all Celts were in hiding, just those that refused to submit to Roman rule (in the territory that the Romans controlled)went into the woods to hide. I've heard that part, that a significant number lived in trees, seperately from the fairy myths. So, does anyone else know if someone has done any kind of research into this or written about it? It does make sense, as it explains in a reasonable way how the fairy myths evolved, but of course that doesn't make it true.
I cannot figure out the point of the following sentence:
Fairies resemble various beings of other mythologies, though even folklore that uses the term fairy offers many definitions.
Can someone familiar with this topic, edit this for clarity? Wakablogger2 ( talk) 23:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The word fairy is often described as being derived from the persian words, Peri, Pari, Fereshteh. However, in this wiki article all references to the fairies Iranian origins have been removed. The Shahnameh, which is an epic of Kings of Iran contains descriptions of fairy land and fairies who live in this fairy land. Reference: P. Kershasp, 1905. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pairyqueen ( talk • contribs) 03:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
A pendant or charm said to be worn by fairies as protection against evil spirits. Celtic legend suggests that tooth fairies would hang a simple pendant of polished lapis lazuli from a string of the highest quality milk teeth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Witoldlutoslawski ( talk • contribs) 22:25, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Please include the series on HBO True Blood whose main character is Sookie Stackhouse a waitress with fairy blood who is discovering her powers of good over evil. This is the fourth season of this show and it is not really about the vampires it is about their fascination with Sookie's blood which they think will give them power to walk in the day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.32.230 ( talk) 15:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
I would like to see the Meredith Gentry series by Laurell K Hamilton the first being published in 2000 added to this article as it is very much a story about Faeries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Kiss_of_Shadows — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.128.67 ( talk) 06:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
they are the focus of that episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 21:32, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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Can you add a citation needed link at the end of the section called Pagan deities, the claims there are inaccurate. 24.153.218.5 ( talk) 20:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Done Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 23:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Please add Lost Girl to See also: popular culture. -- 98.119.198.79 ( talk) 06:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT FAIRIES I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE I HAVE SEEN ONE!!!!! i also took a picture of it..... the fairy had a beautiful short white dress wearing and long brown hair the creature looked at me and flew off, i looked at it until it mytically disappeared. I was terribly frightened.
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I think that the article on "fairy", since it is derived from French folklore, really should focus on its French origins. The Germanic elves, Celtic Sidhe and Slavic Vila have their own traditions. Yes, they are probably all different versions of the same thing (a common Indo-European mythology) but that is a topic for another article, not this one. Serendi pod ous 13:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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Well, I might be a small unneeded 10-year-old, but my friend and I, her name is Hayley, have been studying on fairies for years, making our own fairy attractant and then staying up all night in my backyard camping in a tent, just to find this creature that most people believe is just some mystical nonsense or something to make the children happy. Like Mickey Mouse or Barney. But NO!!! We believe fairies are out there, just waiting for us to dissapear so they can come out from hiding. Sarasroses ( talk) 03:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. -- Fyrefly ( talk) 03:42, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
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Well, I might be a small unneeded 10-year-old, but my friend and I, her name is Hayley, have been studying on fairies for years, making our own fairy attractant and then staying up all night in my backyard camping in a tent, just to find this creature that most people believe is just some mystical nonsense or something to make the children happy. Like Mickey Mouse or Barney. But NO!!! We believe fairies are out there, just waiting for us to dissapear so they can come out from hiding. Sarasroses ( talk) 03:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)