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-- Grprice ( talk) 15:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I've just discovered that the following book, "Educational Neuroscience" "Edited" by Jesse Russell and Ronald Cohn appears to be a substantial backwards copy of this article. As the blurb for the book on Amazon states clearly: "High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles! Educational neuroscience (also called Mind Brain and Education; MBE) is an emerging scientific field that brings together researchers in cognitive neuroscience, developmental cognitive neuroscience, educational psychology, educational technology, education theory and other related disciplines to explore the interactions between biological processes and education. Researchers in educational neuroscience investigate the neural mechanisms of reading,numerical cognition,attention and their attendant difficulties including dyslexia,dyscalculia and ADHD as they relate to education. Researchers in this area may link basic findings in cognitive neuroscience with educational technology to help in curriculum implementation for mathematics education and reading education. The aim of educational neuroscience is to generate basic and applied research that will provide a new transdisciplinary account of learning and teaching, which is capable of informing education. A major goal of educational neuroscience is to bridge the gap between the two fields through a direct dialogue between researchers and educators, avoiding the "middlemen of the brain-based learning industry". These middlemen have a vested commercial interest in the selling of "neuromyths" and their supposed remedies." http://www.amazon.com/Educational-neuroscience-Jesse-Russell/dp/551310850X/
Note that this is a verbatim copying of the lead of this article as it stood sometime around February 17, 2012 ([ [1]]), the date this book was first "published". I am currently flagging this as a backwards copy for now, but given that they are selling this book for $19.95 (even with attribution) this appears to be a violation of the standard Creative Commons License that governs all contributions to wikipedia, which would actually make it a copyvio. I am currently working to open an investigation into this. Edhubbard ( talk) 11:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Under the 'Social and emotional cognition' subtitle is a discussion of 'The concept of Emotional Intelligence' - there is a separate wikipedia page for ' Emotional Intelligence', so it would make sense to link through to it. However, I hesitate to add that link, as I perceive the text about EI on the 'educational neuroscience' page as more favourable to EI than the text on the EI page, which criticises EI on a substantial number of levels.
Learnwonder ( talk) 08:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)Learnwonder
Both pages are extant and both pages clearly link to each other via 'see also', however, I find it confusing - there have been any number of terms to refer to this emerging field (is it scientific, or academic?) - are both of these terms valid? who uses which term most? which one is more prevalent or do they have equal standing? If there is competition between the terms, perhaps this ongoing debate needs making more explicit?
From the two pages:
"Neuroeducation is an interdisciplinary field..."
"Educational neuroscience (also called Mind Brain and Education; MBE) is an emerging scientific field..."
Perhaps this distinction will suffice, but I wonder if a little more explication would help - certainly I find it hard to differentiate them. Maybe something more about naming would be really helpful, especially given the 'brain-based learning' etc 'movements' which do seem to have muddied the water somewhat...
It's great work here btw and I'm grateful for the time and attention given!
Cheers Learnwonder ( talk) 09:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC)Learnwonder
Per the discussion immediately above, I propose to merge Neuroeducation into this page. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I think that it has become clear that there is no objection, and there has been enough time for an objection to show up, so I'm going to go ahead and carry out the merge. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 20:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
This is a very useful section, and I like the inclusion of Byrnes and Fox's categories, nice overview.
However, I take issue with the Bennett & Rolheiser-Bennett (2001) paragraph - I haven't read the article, and the text here looks fine until "The bodies of knowledge discussed include multiple intelligences, emotional intelligences, learning styles, the human brain, children at risk and gender."
multiple intelligences, emotional intelligence and learning styles have all been criticised and are largely unproven - and if gender refers to male brain vs female brain, it's a neuromyth.
Learnwonder ( talk) 10:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)Cheers, Bill
Minor thing, but per MOS:SECTIONS, section headings should not contain questions. Does anyone know a good way to rename them? Me, Myself & I (☮) ( talk) 01:55, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Section: Neuroscience and education: A bridge too far? A large part of this section appears to have been copied directly from this book: Cognitive Science in Education and Alternative Teaching Strategies, page 51. I suggest the offending parts be removed completely and replaced with balanced and referenced material. Any comments? John NH ( talk) 13:55, 7 August 2020 (UTC)