This article was nominated for
deletion on 15 May 2020. The result of
the discussion was delete and redirect.
Non-notable
This article just repeats, in lengthier form, plot information from the article
Oklahoma!. This orchestral dance number is already mentioned in the article
Dream ballet, and its title will cause confusion with the
Dream ballet article. The article has no references, and there is not much to say about the musical number that is encyclopedic. --
Ssilvers (
talk) 21:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Agree, this does not need its own article. Everything that is notable about this dream ballet is mentioned in the Oklahoma! article already.
BOVINEBOY2008 22:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)reply
I also agree that it does not need a separate article. The question is was the redirect okay. I'm guessing there other theatrical works where a ballet is part of a dream sequence but do any of them have the title that this one from Oklahoma (where the wind comes whistling down the plain) does.
MarnetteD|
Talk 22:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)reply
No need for a separate article. Not enough has been written about this topic in the literature to flesh it out by itself. Return it to the Oklahoma! article.
Binksternet (
talk) 23:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Ssilvers. Yeah that makes a redirect problematic so IMO returning this info back to the musicals article is the way to go.
MarnetteD|
Talk 00:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Returning it to which article? I think that whatever we do will be confusing. Probably it would be better to delete this article and block it. --
Ssilvers (
talk) 01:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry. I meant the Oklahoma article - Facepalm. Whether to open a full AFD or just point to this thread as
WP:CONSENSUS I'll leave up to those of you who deal with these more often than I do.
MarnetteD|
Talk 01:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Since "Ballet" is capitalized, perhaps the best thing is to redirect it to Oklahoma!? The other two options are to delete it outright, or to redirect it to
Dream ballet. (My preference would be to delete it entirely, but that might require an AFD.) The article is insufficiently notable, and completely uncited. This is obviously the work of a newbie; perhaps someone should take a look at their other work to make sure they are not repeating this mistake. Anyway, I will put the article on my watchlist in case it goes to AFD.
Softlavender (
talk) 02:53, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
If we direct it to Oklahoma!, I'm afraid that people won't be able easily to find our current article about the genre
Dream ballet. I'd agree with deleting the article altogether. --
Ssilvers (
talk) 03:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't quite see a
WP:CSD that applies to it, so I think AFD is the only way to delete it, and editors who post in the AFD should emphasize that merely redirecting to Oklahoma! would create a problem. Barring deletion, then I guess the best thing is to redirect to
Dream ballet.
Softlavender (
talk) 04:00, 12 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I wouldn't merge, as it is an unreferenced article, so we have no idea what is accurate, on a probably non-notable topic. I will try AfD, you may all want to comment there.
Boleyn (
talk) 12:29, 15 May 2020 (UTC)reply