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I really doubt that Doom received a degree in African American Studies from Stanford. I think this is a joke for three reasons: 1. The incongruent nature of the statement in the context of the article and Doom's character, 2. The fact that the book cited was supposedly written by Chris Byrne in 1972, a time when Byrne was only writing much smaller name comics, and 3. This is likely a joke on Byrne's tendency to write out of character. I'll delete the statement and the citation for now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.67.174 ( talk) 06:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe this is slanted language: "His ruling of the small nation of Latveria provides him with diplomatic immunity, an ingenious plot device never used before in comics". I don't think it's the place of Wikipedia to judge whether a plot device is ingenious or not. 66.189.36.149 01:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Why does Doom refer to himself in third person? Is that just because he is an uber narcasist?
He is royalty and talking in a rather oldish and dramatic style. People in position like that tended to do that sort of thing. -Oneiros
It seems likely that Doom was a prototype for Darth Vader. Part of the character's hook is wondering just what he has hidden under that mask. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.113.216.25 ( talk • contribs) 20:02, 21 February 2003 (UTC)
If Doctor Doom was expelled from college, where did he get his degree? -- Smerdis of Tlön 17:05, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Are there any other "adaptations" of Doctor Doom? -- Feitclub 03:40, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
I highly recommend the MF Doom albums mentioned in the article. Doom is an amazing rapper, and he has produced several incredible albums in the last few years.
Who is to say that Doom did not confer upon himself a doctorate from a Latverian university? - User:Sh@z@m
What I remember reading (back in the early 1960's) is that Dr. Doom and Reed Richards worked on the same floor in the university and an explosion from an forbidden experiment had injured him. The dean of the university banned him for it. People with Dr. degrees can still be banned from working there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.114.12 ( talk) 07:37, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
RE: his use of scientific and magical genius for evil, his eerie name, and his penchant for speaking in a melodramatic manner — have often been copied and parodied.
Actually, this stuff was around and being copied and parodied for years and years before Doom. Fu Manchu, Ming the Merciless, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis Moriarty ... this list goes on. As do the villains! :-) - Tenebrae 05:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
When has the Punisher ever encountered the Doomster?
Here is a question - what is Doctor Doom's current status ? is he alive , is he dead , is he trapped in anothe dimension ? becouse in House of M he was alive and well ... but then again , in house of m the dead gwen stacy , and other guys were resurrected...... so.......... if anyone can help me ,thank you :)
Anyone know how many times he has actually aquired the power cosmic or any other cosmic power for that matter? So far I can only remember twice, Galactus and Beyonder.
Doom is currently in hell. Even so he has allied Latveria with the nation of Wakanda in a battle against the coming globalization imposed by the Super Human Registration Act in the United States. Wakanda is ruled by The Black Panther and his new Wife Storm AKA Ororo Monroe. cyph mon may5 —Preceding
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I seem to recall hearing Dr Doom is from Latvia. Am I just nuts?
Would it be in Wikipedia's purview to make a page listing & describing all the 100+ gadgets Dr. Doom has used in his decades of comic life? There are pages for Captain America's shield and Thor's hamme Mjolnir (and I'm working on one for the Armors of Iron Man), so it would seem to me that there is some precedent for such an aticle. Dr Archeville 19:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, I say go for it.
Dr. Doom also figures prominently in the storyline of the comic Runaways, starting in issue 4. Someone want to add this somewhere? I don't think I know enough to be qualified to do it. There are some details on the Ultron page. aubrey 04:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
An anon user moved this to trivia which I subsequently restored to the top of the article. Since the Fox and DC Comics' Dr. Dooms are extremely unlikely to develop their own pages on wikipedia (particularly the DC Comics' Dr. Doom) it seems appropriate that these characters be mentioned up front in the article for anyone who may be searching for whatever information wikipedia may have on the other Dr. Dooms. Burying it under a trivia section makes them almost not worth mentioning in the article at all, and anyone looking for information on these Dr. Dooms from rival comic publishers will undoubtedly look for them here. The original paragraph including the info on Fox Comics Dr. Doom and Marvel's Dr. Droom have been there for a long time, but I recently added the information on DC Comics' Dr. Doom after digging up my old copy of Detective Comics #158. My conjecture is that DC kept their Dr. Doom obscure so as to avoid a copyright fight with Marvel. What do others think about where this information about other Dr. Dooms should be placed?-- Cardinal Newman 05:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
The publication history of the character needs to be filled out, and also a mention of doombots would be nice. I don't know enough about Dr. Doom to be much help with this. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 22:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I think I remember he was a black woman in the mangaverse, the sister to the black panther or something like that, but I can't remember well. Anyone willing to fill? -- SidiLemine 13:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Doctor Doom once used the third Invincible Man as an alias. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.136.11.242 ( talk • contribs) 03:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Since Eddie Dean came from 1987, how would he know about Harry Potter? speaking of which, do we need two references to Dark Tower? they should be merged, or the inferior one removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.11.242 ( talk) 04:27, 8 January 2007
The article states that Doom is next in line for the title of Sorcerer Supreme. However, other than the Unthinkable story line in which his magical powers were supplemented, Doom has never shown magical abilities that would put him ahead of the likes of Baron Mordo, Morgan Le Fey, Hellstorm, or Doctor Druid (not an exhaustive list). And even in the Unthinkable story line it is made clear that without the demon's granting him additional power that his abilities were quite limited.
The closest that I'm aware of Doom being listed as number two are in the Doctor Doom/Strange graphic novel where Doom came in second in a magical contest. However, Doom and Strange were the only notables entered in that contest. Gethe 02:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
This assertion does indeed come from the Doctor Doom/Strange graphic novel, entitled "Triumph and Torment" where Doom, Strange, and many other magicians in the Marvel Universe competed for the title of sorcerer supreme at the behest of the Vishanti. Doom freely admits before the contest takes place that he is not adept at some of the others present in the ways of magic, but is allowed to participate anyway. The result of the contest can roughly be interpreted as putting Doom in second place, and it is for this reason it is often said he is next in line as Sorcerer Supreme. In the events that followed in the same story, however, Dr. Strange apparently taught Doom a great deal about magical combat, enough for them to survive in Mephisto's hellish dimension. For all these reasons it is reasonable to assume that if Dr. Strange were dispatched Dr. Doom could very well be next in line for his title, or at least in the running.
Don't delete comments you don't agree with. It's against wikipedia policy. Thanks. 72.144.71.193 04:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure they have at some point, but has his face ever been clearly shown in 616 continuity? If so, that might be a good panel/page to track down and put on the article, his supposed disfigurement is a fairly large part of his character.
No, it is tradition that it has not been clearly shown.
Hey, I'm kinda sure his face was visible in Secret Wars (though it had been cured, or summfin').
Marvelrulez 20:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Aww, I wanted to see his freaky face. Heh, like when Peter Griffin went to see the Phantom of the Opera.
Sideshow toys, makers of collectable figures, had made a bust of DD, with both removeable mask(!) and nose(!!) check it out here [
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The Punisher met Doctor Doom in one of his really dorktastic issues of his own series. If that made sense.
Also, the Punisher killed Doom on panel in 'Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe'.
And the current bit about Doom killing the orchestra that failed to play the Minute Waltz in a minute...even it's ever found what issue this happened in, should this really be part of the article anyway? The 'real' Doom has an appreciation for the arts and would know exactly how long the Minute Waltz would last.
Lots42 23:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
While it's acknowledged that Doom has diplomatic immunity when he travels abroad, is it really something that should be listed under 'abilties'? Should something like that really be considered a 'super power'? Lord Shaz 20:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I have added all the refferences needed to the information I gave (specially sections "Doom´s honor", "Doom´s love interests", "Doom´s villains that he has defeated"). I supposse that now the problem of refferences will finish. If it stills, please, tell me what´s the number that I need to add.
If I remeber correctly Doom played a major role in the heroes reborn universe. He was the reason that the heroes could beat Galactacus because he would see their mistakes in each of their attempts to stop him, then he used those seperate ideas to finally stop The big G. The story is found in issue 12 of each series in the heroes reborn universe. Thank you so much for listening. GL135
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Mephisto did not cause the accident that scarred Doom and made him hate Reed. Doom's own arrogance did this.
Lots42 07:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
This is a pain to read. I'm a little drowsy I'll grant, but some of these sentences in the article make my head hurt.
Agreed. Example- "But he had his revenge to Magneto's cruel acts, because when the rebellion against him started, Doom helped him aimless, and quickly escaped, disappearing (perhaps to rescue his mother), leaving King Magnus alone to face a shamefully defeat by the Scarlett Witch's hands." I'm going to attempt some cleanup. --
Citizen Sykes 21:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
This article is too long and needs to be shortened. I propose creating an article to move his 'Other versions' section to, like Captain America, Spider-Man, Wolverine, etc. have. Anyone disagree? Anyone with other ideas on how to shorten the article? - Freak104 17:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
The whole section on Rise of the Silver Surfer is out of line. It should mention his appearance in the film and brief synopsis, not a play by play of every scene he's in in the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.187.19 ( talk) 21:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I think the mention of Doom as an iconic megavillain is a little aside from the point and the definition of megavillain given is even more unclear to the point of begging disputation. The examples are simply evil geniuses, not villains of vast proportions that seek to dominate the world or greater regions. Nor are all of these listed "sympathetic villains" nor anti-heroes nor protagonal sadists. A true megavillain has been described before as simply a fictive villain who is portrayed as capable of destroying or conquering the world or a greater region and is interested in such a thing defacto and normally. There is nothing particularly romantic about this concept as a loosely given variable. However we should not forget the term "romantic villain" and "evil genius". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.165.100 ( talk) 14:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
One paragraph says "He knocks out all the guards guarding the board and kills General Hager". But then the next paragraph says ".... ...he attaches himself to the surfboard and goes on a rampage throughout the Earth,disintegrating and killing General Hager in the process. ".
This is confusing, as it seems like General Hager died twice. Can someone who saw the movie clear this up? 68.199.241.212 02:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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The article cites a few references (like Wizard magazine putting him as number 4 villian etc.) but under the references entry there is only a link to an extremly crappy made fansite? Aetherfukz 18:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 04:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't that section have some references as opposed to "in [story arc/comic/etc.], Doom did.." ? I'd add them myself, but I haven't kept up with Marvel comics in a long, long time. Th 2005 ( talk) 12:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I usually don't like to fail an article right off the bat. However, after reading this article, it obviously has some problems with keeping out-of-universe perspective. The lead, "Fictional character biography" and "Powers and abilities" sections all need rewriting to keep it "out of universe". WP:WAF states clearly: "The principal frame of reference is always the real world, in which both the work of fiction and its publication are embedded: write from a real-world perspective." (emphasis not mine)
There are major edits that need to be done, and I think it would be best to rewrite the aforementioned sections to avoid referring to the character as if he was real. Then come back and re-nominate.
I know there are several comic book characters that are FAs (Batman and Captain Marvel are two, I believe), and it's always a good idea to look at other articles that have already succeeded.
If you have any questions, please leave a note on my talk page. I wish you the best of luck in improving this article, and I hope I see this article nominated again sometime (after much improvement). Noble Story ( talk) 13:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I still think we should have a page for his biography like Spider-Man and Wolverine have their own biography page. Rtkat3 ( talk) 6:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Where is his bio? Every comic book character on this site has a bio except one of the most prolific. It seems in an effort to make the page more 'encyclopedic' the editors have gradually shat upon the article. 69.3.159.45 ( talk) 00:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
There used to be one, but I dunno what happened to it. I could patch a few things to it on Word or something, seeing as I'm reading the Chronopack now.. issues from 1961 to recent materials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.17.171.105 ( talk) 05:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
This picture of Doctor Doom really suck, post a better one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.12.156.120 ( talk) 02:16, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Doom 2099 was not created by Robert Kirkman, but John Francis Moore. The link points to an article about a much later 2099 project named after the original. 68.9.104.156 ( talk) 00:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
the Cultural Impact section really reads as a critical reception comment. I think it should be merged into the publication history, which describes some of the creative teams and their efforts and intents. If we show those, it makes sense to show the results of the same in the same place. ThuranX ( talk) 04:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
I like this article, but I would like it even better if it highlighted some of Doc's most famous bombastic quotes… "Fools! You have sealed your fate, etc." (not an actual quote, just what my memory tells me he sounded like.)-- Goodmorningworld ( talk) 13:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Removed the addition to his powers related to blocking telepaths and realizing others were arriving or there without seeing them. This is merely an extension of his technology, mystical training and willpower and nothing special that we haven't witnessed before. Also, it's Osborn, not Osborne. 86.32.134.96 ( talk) 13:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I included Doom in the category Characters who have mental powers because he has the mental power that allows him to transfer his mind to another being. 201.29.146.156 ( talk) 13:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
An IP has been trying to add Category:Fictional characters who have mental powers to the article. He has insisted, on my talk page, that I need to disprove his assertion, otherwise, he'll continue to edit war. This power is in no way supported by the article, nor can he provide citations, beyond 'that issue i remember from Brazil long ago'. I have asked repeatedly for citations, issue number, comic book series in which it occurs, anything .he's provided nothing. I will accept the category if we can get secondary sources on this, but I haven't found any yet. I've requested page protection, as well. This is getting absurd. A half-remembered comic book memory is not sufficient grounds for adding to the article. ThuranX ( talk) 00:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey ThuranX, I'd like to see your face now, and you to laugh at this:
All of those images, except for the covers, are listed here
Brazilian Man ( talk) 19:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
The Truth Is, the Truth Hurts. Brazilian Man ( talk) 17:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
There's no details about Doom's fight (along with several Marvel's heroes) against Onslaught at the article. Brazilian Man ( talk) 13:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
This is parsing hairs, and I may be off, but I I believe that box image of Doom, is actually Kristoff Vernard (which is revealed in the following issue). - Sharp962 ( talk) 18:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC).
(If you are " You Know Who", I'd love to prevent you from editing this section, but unfortunately I'm not at my talk page. But please try to keep yourself as far as you can from it anyway.)
I noticed that Doom's article is within Silver Surfer template, as a secondary enemy. If that's so, he can be considered an Iron Man's secondary enemy also, because he fought Iron Man several times, much more than he did against other Marvel Heroes like Spider-Man, Hulk or X-Men. I'd like to know if I am "authorized" to put his article at Iron Man's template. Brazilian Man ( talk) 16:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
While I agree that the previous state of the character history section was way out of hand, I believe the article may have been edited too much. For example, the article currently--in regards to Doom's history--stops at 2006, ignoring the last 3 years of the characters depictions and character development. Significant things to the Marvel Universe as a whole (such as Doom joining Osborn's Cabal) should be mentioned.
I fear DCincarnate may have been too overzealous in his cuts (and major cuts should really be discussed first on the talk page). I can only guess in an effort to bring the article up to good article level as the GA Review earlier on this page indicates. However, it should be noted that the review said to rewrite those sections, not remove them completely. While I appreciate DCincarnate's attempts to improve the article, he seems to removing information solely because he feels it's irrelevant without discussing such major edits with the community first.
24.190.34.219 ( talk) 05:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Setting up the discussion section since the editor proposing the merges hasn't provided a reason for the merges. - J Greb ( talk) 19:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I didn't make either of the IOM and AV articles, however I was the one that removed the lists from this page and left only the re-directs. I don't care whether those articles are merged back or not. I simply noticed that those two articles exist. As those two articles exist, there is no reason to list anything on this page as everything is listed in more detail in their respective articles. In fact, the only reason why anyone would have created those articles in the first place is to free up space in this article. To bullet new lists here would be going against this not to mention make it more confusing for people looking up the info as they now have an article and a section to read and make it more difficult for editors adding new examples. As long as those articles exist, all that should be in those sections in the main Doom article is a) the re-direct b) a short paragraph or sentence explaining something like Doom has had lots of other appearances c) if an example is particularly notable -- note I said notable as per Wiki standards, not any one editors opinion, so notability would have to be proven -- then and only then could a short paragraph be added to the main Doom page explaining why that particular appearance was notable. 24.190.34.219 ( talk) 00:41, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
He also genuinely cares for his people of Latveria, who in turn are devoted to their leader; returning to Latveria after being temporarily deposed...
I'd like to say that Doom actually doesn't care about the latverians (though they think he does) or his henchmen, because the punishment for his men's failures is death, as you can see here and here. Brazilian Man ( talk) 17:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
The article on Powered exoskeletons states that Dr. Doom uses one. I don't think this is correct, at least not in the same definition of a power suit as one like Iron Man or of The Centurions.
I'd just assumed he was horribly disfigured, had metalic skin, and super power, but not that he was wearing it (as augmentation would then be classified in the realm of being a cyborg... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.153.29.23 ( talk) 04:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Doom had a Doom cycle [4]. Should we link to pictures of the toys in the article where they are mentioned? I search the official Marvel website and can't find them mentioned there, but there are pictures of them elsewhere. Dream Focus 04:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
... is not part of the regular 616-continuity. The references in the canon character history should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.113.233.79 ( talk) 16:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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Given that the title of the page is Doctor Doom, should the opening read -
Leave it to you, Jhenderson777.
Also in the precis (lede, lead, intro, summary) is the word archenemy, which I split into arch enemy, that being the conventional formulation. An equally valid alternative would be arch-enemy, but I opted for the former for simplicity's sake. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 04:42, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Jhenderson 777, In dealing with the sections from History and development onwards, I sometimes found it difficult to follow the prose, which assumes a level of understanding about comic book genre that, perhaps, shouldn't be assumed. In addition, I was sometimes lost in the narrative itself. For that reason, and the possible reasons for Philg88's clarification template, rather than attempting a piecemeal edit the way I normally do, I propose a more fundamental re-write for readability and concision. That proposal follows. If you don't like it, or I got it wrong, or you want to change it, please do so. I won't make any changes to the relevant section(s) unless and until you agree they are warranted or desirable. The first proposed re-write is the section Creation and development —
Over to you Jhenderson777. Regards Peter S Strempel | Talk 05:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
I was having a browse through GOCE and thought I'd poke my nose in. I think the last paragraph should be worded slightly differently, so it sounds more product based rather than sounding a little "in-universe-y".
Just my two cents. -- Blackmane ( talk) 00:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In a 1960's animated version of Spiderman the Main villian was Dr Doom-who in the last episode is destroyed by his own Doom Ray! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.72.154 ( talk) 13:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to start rigorously going through this article and address
a) The rambling, tag-on sentences that got this tagged as "in-universe" b) Odd grammar c) Opinions and perceptions disguised as factual information
For C, I will attempt to add missing citations, but will cut things for which I have no appropriate reference. Please do not take this personally; I welcome additional information with proper citations.
For A, I must stress to other contributors that this is at least pretends to be an encyclopedic entry, so if you must add fun facts about our favorite ironclad tyrant, I ask that you consider whether or not they provide necessary information, or at least think about putting them a new section.
I look forward to working with everyone and bringing the reign of the great Victor von Doom to this pitiful internet encyclopedia.
FACE7 ( talk) 03:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Why does it say in the first line that Latveria is in Los Angeles? That doesn't make any sense but is that true? And I can't find anything, anywhere else on the internet that says his name is "Doctor Doom not of Latveria," so where is the evidence that the "not of Latveria" is part of his name? ...because it's confusing. Also, "Latveria" is linked at least four times in the first paragraph... I don't think it's supposed to be done that way.
Iminrainbows ( talk) 22:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
I realize the character has been around forever and a day, but a comprehensive list of his appearances would increase the usefulness of this entry immensely. Someone should get one started. It would be a great help in getting cross-referencing underway too. Thetrellan ( talk) 01:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
The infobox image of Doctor Doom, aside from appearing with cluttered foreground and background, is inappropriate for an encyclopedia article in that he is presented out of proportion and appears to be a giant. It's a dramatic image, but we're not supposed to use images decoratively. Rather, we have to use them educationally. We could say "shown symbolically as a giant" in the caption, but that misses the point — which is that we need a plain, informative image of him. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:39, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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Granted, Doom has had a long career in the comics, but so have Batman and Spider-Man, and their fictional bios are nowhere near as long. This needs a desperate trim to weed out insanely overdetailed, sometimes panel-by-panel plot descriptions. I'm glad to talk tackle it, but it's a big job and I'm hoping some of my fellow WPC editors can help. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 21:14, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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Victor Von Doom has been a heroic character since the events of 2015's Secret Wars, becoming a superhero himself following the events of 2016's Civil War II. Therefore, I believe the most appropriate image to use on the main page is the following image:
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Victor Von Doom is the third character to take on the mantle of Iron Man, following Tony Stark and James Rhodes ( Riri Williams is Ironheart, nor Iron Man). This image portrays the look of both the classic villainous version of Doom and the newer post-Secret Wars heroic version of Doom. Does anybody have any reasons that this image is not suited for this article?
Impending_IP ( talk) 18:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
This page should be renamed Victor Von Doom.
The reason for this?
As revealed in the pages of Infamous Iron Man, Victor is no longer known as "Doctor Doom", and doesn't refer to himself as such.
Impending_IP ( talk) 23:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
User:Impending IP, also editing as 86.43.187.228, continues to edit-war to reinsert inappropriate edits that at least two editors have reverted over the past few days. He appears to be slow-motion edit-warring in a transparent attempt to avoid WP:3RR, and if he reverts once more, I will report him for 3RR and explain the slow-motion circumstances. He has been warned on his talk page and has decided to take a contentious attitude and refuses to discuss the issue on this talk page. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 18:51, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I think he edited the page again and I dont know how to revert it and wikipedia doesnt have a button to flag the page but it pretty much just says Dr Doom is really gay all over the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9600:25D0:8491:1630:9E36:E318 ( talk) 18:10, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
The infobox image violates many of the guidelines, which specify a clean, clear image of the character's best-known look, with no distracting background. Before replacing the image, I'd like other editors to weigh in. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 00:09, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
"in his constant battles with heroes and other villains, Doctor Doom has appeared more times than any other character" - this suggests that Doom has appeared in more total issues than any other Marvel character; there is no way this can be true. Doom cannot possibly have appeared in more comics than Spider-Man, who at one time was appearing in four series every single month as well as guest spots, etc -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 13:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
One or more images currently used in this article have been nominated for deletion as violations of the non-free content criteria (NFCC).
You can read more about what this means and why these files are being nominated for deletion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Image deletion nominations for NFCC 8 and 3a.
You can participate at the deletion discussion(s) at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 April 27. If you are not familiar with NFCC-related deletion discussions, I recommend reading the post linked above first.
Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy ( talk) 01:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Both this and Cynthia Von Doom's page refer to Empire State University as the university Doctor Doom attended (before being expelled). Other sources, however, clarify that it's in fact a separate university: State University, in Hegeman. Are there any definitive sources showing which is correct? Or, is it that at the time of the character's conception, or throughout its publication history, the details have simply changes / been ambiguous? Rovack ( talk) 21:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect I've always wanted power. Now I have an unlimited supply.. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 16#I've always wanted power. Now I have an unlimited supply. until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. — Mikehawk10 ( talk) 06:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)