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do you mean Czechoslovakia? Czech Republic came into existence only in 1993. rado 09:23, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Some of the changes I've been reverting of yours explained: linking the Mountainous Republic to Northern Caucausus: this is a poor example of piping, as the Northern Caucausus article only talks about the region, not the short-lived autonomous region. Furthermore, the land comparison should remain, to explain the difference in area between the two incarnations of the republic of Georgia. Feel free to respond. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 04:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Georgia had never owned the cities such as Artvin, Ardahan and also the regions around these cities. The map claims that till 1921, these lands were belong to Georgia but actually these cities were invaded by the Russian Empire during World War One(when there wasn't a country named Georgia).After the Soviet Revolution, Russians retreated from the parts that they occupied during the war.Then during the Turkish War of Indipendence, General Kazım Karabekir kept these lands in safety. Deliogul 09:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
The side info boxes spill down past the end of the main section, and push the text for the History section significantly below the header. Can someone with more wikiformatting knowledge please fix this?
The map of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic shows the territory of Zaqatala (now the rayons of Balakan, Zaqatala, and Qakh) as fully part of Azerbaijan, while here it is shown as parts of the DRG and on the DRA (Democratic Republic of Armenia) page the territory is shown as disputed between Azerbaijan and Georgia. Also Lori, a territory that was usually considered to be disputed between Armenia and Georgia is shown as a disputed territory between Georgia and Azerbaijan. Also, the historic city of Rustavi (shown as Shulaveri) is also shown as being contested with Azerbaijan. Both maps of Armenia and Georgia from this period convey a completely different story to the reader, in comparison to that of Azerbaijan. Something's not right. -- Clevelander 22:08, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The number of Georgian refugees from Abkhazia is mentioned in the articles about Georgia, History of Georgia, Politics of Georgia and probably in several others. I think the same approach should be applied here. Alaexis 05:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that the 2 maps to the right should not be used at all in this article or anywhere else in the en:WP. Here are the issues with them:
1. There are factual errors in them, along with territories actually controlled by Georgians it shows as Georgian territories that were assigned to Georgia according to the Treaty of Sevres, but were never controlled by DRG, such as modern Turkey's Black Sea coast with towns of Rize and Hopa. This very article says:
“ | The Treaty of Sèvres of 1920 granted Georgia control over eastern Lazistan including Rize and Hopa. However, the Georgian government, unwilling to be involved in a new war with Turkish Revolutionaries, did nothing to take control of these areas. | ” |
2. Both are not in English (1st - French, 2nd - Georgian), and would be thus hard to understand for an English-speaking reader
3. The quality of both is below satisfactory, in case of the upper map no captions can be discerned.
4. The name of the lower map (Territorial losses of Georgia after the Russian red army occupation in 1921) fails NPOV, as not all these losses happened "after" or were caused by Soviet occupation, i. e. Sochi region.
Also, the territories DRG actually controlled were not controlled simultaneously: for example Sochi region was lost by Georgia in May 1919, while Batumi and Lori region were only incorporated in 1920. Both maps fail to clarify this to the reader.
We can discuss the pros and cons of the old map here, but if it comes from Robert H. Hewsen's "Armenia: A Historical Atlas" (2001), page 236, as claimed here, then I don't see any NPOV or RS problems with it, and in terms of readablity and clarity it's clearly superior to the maps to the right. Alæxis ¿question? 09:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
“ | The Treaty of Sèvres of 1920 granted Georgia control over eastern Lazistan including Rize and Hopa. However, the Georgian government, unwilling to be involved in a new war with Turkish Revolutionaries, did nothing to take control of these areas. | ” |
Thanks in advance, Abkhazian1 ( talk) 09:53, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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Was it really the case that DRG was refused entry into League of Nations but had borders recognised by it? Alæxis ¿question? 09:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
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