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Have they officially been called mutants during Claremont's run of Uncanny X-Men? I seriously do not recall this being stated and Wikipedia has been the only source I've seen that uses this information. 71.51.39.83 ( talk) 04:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Archer wasn't necessarily confirmed powered, was he? I know that in Endangered Species Beast noticed a trend, but was it confirmed a clear-cut rule and was he ever mentioned? 76.0.91.153 ( talk) 16:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Question. Where was it stated that he is actualy powered and not just one of those who kept theire changed physical apearance?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.141.63.83 ( talk • contribs) -- 11 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.141.63.83 ( talk • contribs) 16:09 October 11, 2006
Where was this character revealed to be powered and living at the school? I keep seeing him (?) listed in various articles as powered and residing at the school. Granted, I've stopped reading New X-Men, but have not heard anything about this character recently. Breakaway 07:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
After checking through New X-Men #24 over and over, I did NOT see characters E-Shock, Jet Storm, and Time Master appear in it. M.Factor 04:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Where did Mike Marts confirm all of those mutants to be depowered? M.Factor 04:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Just changing the Wolverine comic link from the wolverine animal link to the Wolverine comic link. Whispering 21:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC) disambiguation link repair ( You can help!)
-- I don't think Alexander Lexington should be included here. The Sentinel Squad ONE series is set before the group's first appearance, which was in a comic set on M-Day. As this book is about the team's formation and training it would be before M-Day, so Lex would still have his powers. I'm not sure if Meld has shown up post-M-Day or not.-- —Preceding
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Indeed it's clear by now that Meld should not be on the list. His only appearances are in the Sentinel Squad ONE miniseries, set before M-Day, and the mention in the 198 files book. That mention does refer to him as a mutant, but it also refers to him as being a member of the team still, which he was not as of M-Day, so it is out of date either way. We have nothing to show him as a mutant.
Isn't Mr. Immortal Homo-Supreme and not Homo-Superior? Isn't Doorman actually deceased but re-incarnated as an agent of Oblivion with powers granted by Oblivion? Aren't Cloak and Dagger only mutants in a lame retcon that nobody pays attention to, kind of like Doc Ock at the gamma bomb site?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.30.190.4 ( talk • contribs) -- 15 April 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.190.4 ( talk • contribs) 20:26 April 15, 2006
WHO SCREWED UP THIS PAGE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.251.173.250 ( talk • contribs) -- 8 April 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.251.173.250 ( talk • contribs) 20:24 April 8, 2006
First of all, noone screwed it up, this is taken from a official Marvel list.
Second, I have noticed that on every page that the House of M, M-Day, or Decimation are mention a differnt pecentage of mutants losing their powers is used, is there one official number that should be being used on all of them?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhackrviper ( talk • contribs) -- 21 April 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhackrviper ( talk • contribs) 01:01 21 April, 2006
The number of mutants left after the Decimation is more than 198. The 198 is used symbolically, I'm sure this has been pointed out already elsewhere, but it bothers me that on some articles it lists this is as fact when it is not. Also, which was pointed out above, there are multiple instances in multiple articles that have a different percentage of mutants depowered. Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 03:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Or perhaps a publication order (this one I can do myself). I've searched long and hard checking if there is an order I'm supposed to go in.. Nothing. The marvel site is really a piece of trash, so it's not bee much help.
Also, I added the X-Factor 1-4 in the Decimation line, as it was missing.
-- Cryptik 19:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
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But if 16 million is "half" the mutant population, then the mutant population is 32 million. Alternately, only 8 million died in on Genosha. If someone who has the source could confirm, that would be great. — vijay ( Talk) 21:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
This is stating the obvious, but there's a lot of bad math concerning the entire matter. At least the Professor X article states that 91.4 % of the mutants were depowered; so if 198 represents 8.6 % of the original mutant population, there were only 2,302 to begin with. Elswhere I've seen a figure of 98 %, which would still put the original count just below 10,000. When in fact narrowing an original of 16 million (based on above statements, I haven't read the particular stories myself) down to 198 would mean a 99.9988 % decrease in numbers. Many people think 1 % a smaller unit than it really is – especially when dealing with large numbers – and this seems to include comicbook writers. -- Anshelm '77 00:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
While you are correct on the definition of decimate, at this point its arguing semantics. At the end of the day, it seems that Marvel doesn't even have a grasp of the amount of mutants in existence. Granted its been 40+ years since the original X-Men's introduction and a number of of mutants have been introduced since then. It seems that Marvel needs to get a better handle on the number of mutants that are in existence. It's just so damn confusing. Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 03:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't Celeste, Mindee and Phoebe be listed as three seperate mutants as opposed to a part of a collective group and a singular member of the 198? Didn't change it of my own accord in case I'm wrong in some strange way...-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.139.193.42 ( talk • contribs) -- 20 June 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.139.193.42 ( talk • contribs) 13:45 June 20, 2006
198 Questions Some of these characters have not been confirmed as far as I remember. Emplate and a couple of others have not been seen as either powered or depowered. I also think that the Three-in-One and Collective Man do count as one mutant since they were that way in the files.-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.172.177 ( talk • contribs) -- 31 July 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.172.177 ( talk • contribs) 18:25 July 31, 2006
No, they are different people but have linked powers. That's it. And for Emplate and all the character who were in the Handbooks, if they aren't listed as depowered, then they're powered, Eric J Moreels told me, whn I asked over at ComixFan.-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siemgi ( talk • contribs) -- 13 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Siemgi ( talk • contribs) 18:30 October 13, 2006
This article is a mess- especialy the 198 list! Where have Eosimias, Gregor Smyrdiakov, or "the SHIELD Psi-Agents" reappear? There are no sources! Can we organize this like depowered list?- Merlin Storm
It's not, although they weren't in the 198 Files, Gregor was in Mutopia X #5 and the SHIELD agents in New Avenger, the Collective story ! -- Siemgi
Also, the references section is broken, with a lot of visible HTML markup. Scraimer 21:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Please explain what "died after the explosion of the bus" means to non readers. thx
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In one week, I will begin to delete uncited characters in the 198 list. -- Chris Griswold 07:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Now lets see- Skids and Indra were confirmed in Blood of Apocalypse(XM) part 1and Childhoods End(NXM) part1, Madame Web was confimed in Feral(ASM) part 4, Negasonic was in Torn(AXM) part1, and....that's all I know. Anyone have more info?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.251.162.94 ( talk • contribs) -- 12 August 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.251.162.94 ( talk • contribs) 22:20 August 12, 2006
I edited it for errors (including correct alphabetization), and it was reverted! WHAT THE HELL! Merlin Storm 00:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#"Factual" Lists, e.g. X-Men: The 198 Files for details. -- Chris Griswold ( ☎ ☓) 09:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Since this is a book, with entries about the powered mutants, I don't see why people keep telling that its unreferenced statement. And it's no more copyright violation than citing other names is it ?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siemgi ( talk • contribs) -- 13 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Siemgi ( talk • contribs) 18:43 October 13, 2006
It is stated by the Shadow King himself that he is not the Shadow King of this dimension along with the along with all the other extra dimensional X-Men that fought New Excalibur.-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.81.95 ( talk • contribs) -- 14 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.81.95 ( talk • contribs) 17:29 October 14, 2006
Not a mutant. Please remove. He's related to two very powerful ones but his powers are magical based just as Lion Heart's.-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.81.95 ( talk • contribs) -- 14 October 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.81.95 ( talk • contribs) 17:31 October 14, 2006
Hi
I was wondering if both Felicia Hardy and the Owl should be included in the confirmed mutants section since both are mutants. Though Felicia is a latent mutant who under went a process to "release" her bad luck powers. The Owl though is a mutant. Just thought I'd ask before adding them.
Thanks
RIANZ 23:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I thinks it is too bad that the powered section was changed. Listing the issue in which they were reaveled powered next to them (à la depowered) would make the list clearer. And by the way Asp isn't a mutant.
Man, all this hard work and dedication to creating such a really nice list, its going to be so sad when the status quo is returned.-- Mullon 04:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering whether or not the notes really should be there since some of them do conflict with the articles of the characters eg Asp and Owl (both articles state they are mutants) or just revert to how the list was at years end. RIANZ 00:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Ultra Girl is a mutant Kree and thus the x-factor gene is likely not part of her genetic makeup. In the Marvel Universe you must have an active x-factor gene to be considered a mutant.
Also, Wiccan and Speed are not confirmed to actually be mutants so I don't really think they belong here.
I forgot, Cloak and Dagger *aren't* mutants. They normal humans who were given powers after being given drugs laced with mutant growth hormone. Technically, they are *mutates* in the same vain as Spider-Man and the Hulk. Since they got their powers from drugs rather than the natural activation of the x-gene, they're not mutants in the Decimation sense.
Has it been confirmed that Scarlet Witch still has her powers? Or that Kimura is a mutant and not enhanced by some other means?
Also, while Namor is traditionally called "the first mutant" he gets his powers from being half Atlantian. Not from the x-factor gene. He is, actually, an Atlantean mutant which is not the same as the standard Marvel Universe mutant.
Isn't Shiro still a mutant? It was never shown or revealed that he lost his powers due to Wanda's Hosue of M effect. He had lost his powers because Rogue basically "drained" him in her last mini-series and the next time we see him, he's being recruited by Apocalypse.
In this sense, he still has the X-Gene, unlike Polaris who lost hers. This is what makes Sunfire a mutant still. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Volk006 ( talk • contribs) 20:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
Shouldn't Eye-Scream be added to the un-confirmed list of mutants that we don't know are powered/depowered?
Whoever keeps adding Harpoon to the list of confirmed mutants, don't. He was confirmed depowered in New Avengers #18. And Vertigo isn't a mutant at all, she's a savage land mutate. Just because they're in the Marauders group does not mean they're mutants. Sinister himself is a mutate, and not a mutant, so there's no reason why you should assume everyone in the group must be a mutant. -- 156.34.91.97 10:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Mentallo is to be considered deceased for now. In the Super-Villain Team-Up: MODOK's 11 limited series he was shown blasted and incinerated by the Ultra-Adaptoid. After said incineration he landed face down in a river, and stayed there, motionless. No one without a healing factor could survive that level of burn, and if by chance he did, there's no way someone could stay conscious during said incineration, so when he hit the water (if he wasn't already dead) he would have drowned. See images: here(1) and here(2) -- Venomaru 2.0 19:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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The Order #8 shows that Mulholland Black was a mutant who lost her powers on M-Day. In that same issue she gets her powers back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrocket ( talk • contribs) 23:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't Molly Hayes, of the Runaways series, as well as her parents, be still-powered mutants and thus belong on the list? Torca ( talk) 03:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the confirmed list include those that have gotten their powers back, like Professor X, Polaris, Pietro, etc? (and what's with all the "p"s?)
And how can Franklin Richards be included? Weren't his powers burned out before the Decimation? Or was it after? He doesn't seem to have any now... but you never can tell about that. If he does, he's powerful enough to bring everyone's back, if he's motivated right. Rosencomet ( talk) 01:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
NIET levend, noch is zij bevestigde dat nog steeds een mutant. Wat is onlangs verschenen in de pagina's van Uncanny X-Men is NIET Maddie, maar slechts de essentie van de Goblin Queen op zoek naar een ontvangende instantie, zoals wordt bevestigd door de schrijver Matt Fraction zichzelf. Ga naar karakter Madelyne's pagina voor de link en bevestiging. Dus, voor de gebruikers die ervoor zorgen met inbegrip van haar in de lijst; stoppen. 68.49.68.231 ( talk) 22:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
El que importa és el que apareix en-COMICS, no el que es va dir completament fora de la màniga en una sola entrevista, i ni tan sols va ser el tema principal de l'entrevista de la. I el que s'ha dit en les entrevistes no són sempre la veritat de l'evangeli, però fent broma o exageració. Tornar enrere i tornar a llegir un munt d'entrevistes recents amb el mateix autor i amb altres autors sobre les històries que va escriure fa poc, i veurà que poques vegades li va dir als fets exactes. Així de parar, i oblidar l'assumpte per ara, fins que la prova absoluta es en-el-còmics en si. 06:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
So what actually happened on "M-Day"? Who is the Scarlet Witch, and how come she "depowered" most of the mutants? Some plot explanation for non-obsessives would be nice! This is supposedly a pivotal moment in the Marvel/X-Men universe, but the article gives hardly any description, concentrating on extensive and tedious lists instead. Fences& Windows 20:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm just curious, why is Malice part of this list? When she came back, it was technically a digital copy based on her. Not a mutant at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Jay89 ( talk • contribs) 04:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking for some feedback here. From my understanding, after M-Day, 95 or so percent of mutants lost there X-Gene, including previously deceased mutants. Now in the ongoing Necrosha crossover, Selene and Eli Bard are reviving dead mutants to help their cause. Is it just me or does the resurrection of these dead mutants pose a problem? I had read that even dead mutants X-Genes simply vanished after decimation, yet we have numerous mutants being revived by the transmode virus and they have their mutant powers intact. Unless these dead mutants didn't lose their X-Genes after death like others did after The Decimation there seems to be an issue going on here...
Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 01:56, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
I keep seeing this pop up on this page, Gargouille's page and Predator X's page. People keep listing her as dead and claiming she was one of Predator X's victims back in Uncanny X-Men 518. This is not true as Gargouille and the mutant girl from Uncanny X-Men 518 look nothing a like. Gargouille has grey hair, grey skin, large horns, wings, talons and is French. The mutant girl is blonde, blue skin and is an American; she even says so herself. To support my argument, look at this picture http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=3955&pg=2 and compare it to the one her Gargouille's wikipage. They look nothing a like which means Gargouille's last appearence was during Messiah Complex with the rest of the former Acolytes.
Mr Jay89 ( talk) 12:22, 05 April 2011 (UTC)
Since another poster seems bound and determined to revert, and I don't want an edit war. Currently the entry reads that Wiz Kid is "mysteriously repowered" in Avengers Academy, after a SHIELD database revealed he was supposedly depowered back in New Avengers #18 when it appeared to detect his mutant energy signature within the Collective. The writer of Avengers Academy has posted online that the character's powers allow him to manipulate technology, and that Wiz Kid used those powers to "fly under the radar" - e.g. he fooled the devices that said he was depowered. This means that he was not "mysteriously repowered" as it appears he was never depowered to begin with. Granted, the writer worded it as an opinion, but this is the writer of the book the character is appearing in, so his opinion on resolving the apparent conflict between being reported depowered and being seen with powers intact count more than most. Why is it wrong to note what he said here? We're not talking about saying "this is definitely what happened" before a comic outright states it one way or another, but simply including it as part of the overall entry - "one comic says this, another contradicts it, and the writer of the second comic has said..." What is incorrect in that? As opposed to saying it is a "mysterious repowering" when the alleged mystery has been given an explanation by the person who did the repowering. The current statement is incorrect. 109.152.147.88 ( talk) 06:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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