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Is it really true to say that he is venerated in Eastern Orthodoxy?
Johnbod 02:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Consecration vs Ordination vs Translation
The person who wrote this is confused about ordination vs consecration. A bishop is made a bishop (ordained) only one time. Such an ordination is for life, even if the bishop subsequently resigns, moves, retires or whatever. When a bishop moves from one diocese to another (changes his/her jurisdiction) they are said to be "translated". When a bishop becomes an archbishop he/she is consecrated (anointed) into the position. Archbishop is simpy an administrative post and nothing more; therefore the person does not get ordained again. (Ex; Archbisop of canterbury is primate of England but only bishop of th local diocese. Archbishop being an administrative job and having no standing within the sacramental holy orders.)
An archbishop can resign and is no longer an archbishop. (It is not a permamnent thing vs bishop which is for life .. even if the person is not functioning as such.)
Consequently, the argument that the two people in the article, bishop and archbishop, could not have been the same is not valid. A bishop being appointed as an archishop would indeed be "consecrated" as well as "installed" when assuming the job. That same person would be consecrated again if he/she were to be appointed as archbishop of yet another place.
The original confusion was the difference between being "ordained" a bishop and subsequently "consecrated" as something else. Once a bisop always a bishop, archbishops come and go, loosing authority along the way, but still remain a "bishop". —Preceding
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68.35.219.194 (
talk) 18:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)reply
I fixed a few "minor problems" as I reviewed, but I'm not listing them here. I now regard the article as GA-compliant.
Pyrotec (
talk) 11:11, 29 May 2011 (UTC)reply
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have
fair use rationales:
Not applicable - no illustrations.
B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with
suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
I'm awarding this article GA-status. Another "notch" on your long list of GA's. Congratulations on the GA.
Pyrotec (
talk) 11:11, 29 May 2011 (UTC)reply