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This section seems entirely pointless, who cares what some musicians have to say about Katrina? I'm going to boldly remove it. Bonewah ( talk) 13:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Wow. I just read over the "celebrity" commentary section, and it was one of the biggest piles of non-notable, POV-pushing garbage I've seen to date on Wikipedia, and that's saying something. When educated people who have STUDIED the problems that occurred during Katrina, after the fact, have some notable commentary on the government response, their quotes should be added to this article. But there is no justifiable reason to include the opinion of every hip hop group that wrote a song about the disaster in the days after, based on what they'd seen in a few pictures. ViperNerd ( talk) 19:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
This section is highly dubious
In January 2007, the fired FEMA director Michael D. Brown charged that partisan politics had played a role in the White House's decision to federalize emergency response to the disaster in Louisiana only rather than along the entire affected Gulf Coast region, which Brown said he had advocated. "Unbeknownst to me, certain people in the White House were thinking, 'We had to federalize Louisiana because she's a white, female Democratic governor, and we have a chance to rub her nose in it,'" Brown said, speaking before a group of graduate students at the Metropolitan College of New York on January 19, 2007. "'We can't do it to Haley [Mississippi governor Haley Barbour] because Haley's a white male Republican governor. And we can't do a thing to him. So we're just gonna federalize Louisiana.'" The White House fervently denied Brown's charges through a spokeswoman and Brown's comments have never been substantiated.[21]
For starters the only citation for this is a dead link. And on top of that, the paragraph even says that Brown's comment has never been substantiated. Bonewah ( talk) 17:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
This citation for this section does not support the statement at all:
Later, Michael Brown admitted that he had virtually no experience in emergency management when he was appointed to the position by President Bush two years prior to Katrina.
The citation only shows that certain media members accused Michael Brown of having no experience. Brown himself continues to refute that charge to this day. [1] Wrecklass ( talk) 16:12, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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if the black dead were equal in percentage to that of the overall population, then that means the storm wasn't racist, but kill proportionally to the population. right? 67.176.160.47 ( talk) 05:08, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted again Sam Donald's removal of cited content. I'd like to explain why. Quite simply you cannot removed reliable sourced and cited content from an article, and replace it with contradictory claims that are not sourced or cited. Saying "it was on the internet, but someone's removed it" is not an adequate. Wikipedia's readers need a way of verifying the facts, and this doesn't allow for that.
Please do not alter the article again until this can be cited. Can another source be found? Thanks. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea of how to answer this. I did, but it appeared on another thread.
I did cite the fact that two letters were written, and it was deleted. http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=kat_71 plainly indicates there were two letters d/t two different dates.
Your comments are untrue. Sam Donald ( talk)Don —Preceding undated comment added 17:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC).
My comments in []s:
Many claimed [who? when?] that on the morning of August 28, the president telephoned Mayor Nagin to "plead" for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, and further claimed that Nagin and Gov. Blanco decided to evacuate the city only in response to that request. These claims were never substantiated with any recordings, however Blanco did tell reporters the President had called and spoken with her (but not Nagin) before the press conference [which press conference?; citation needed].
Perhaps the press conference is obvious from context, but I do not readily find it. Fotoguzzi ( talk) 03:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
The last paragraph in this Presidential role section has apparently been damaged by an editing error. It currently begins, "Address]]. In that speech, Bush did not mention..." Juniperpaul ( talk) 07:23, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
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There's a little weirdness in the section titled, "Investigation of State of Emergency declaration," so I want to explain my edits here.
Firstly, the parenthetical "(In fact, the declaration did not include any of Louisiana's coastal parishes; rather, they were included in the declarations for Mississippi[27] and Alabama.[28])" seems wrong. As far as I can tell, there are no Louisiana parishes included in either of the linked declarations. I suspect this should have been, "rather, they were included in the declaration for August 29th."
Secondly, the section presents a timeline of a governor's letter proceeding a declaration on the 27th. However, the linked letter was dated the 28th. Assuming the section is correct in that the letter was publicized in reaction to the hearing, I suppose the more modest edit is to just point out without comment that the letter had that date.
I came to this page to learn more about the declarations, and I found the section not really agreeing with the things it was linking to, so I want to improve it. I'm trying to keep the edits modest to avoid the No original research rule, so I hope this is acceptable. Crcarlin ( talk) 00:41, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hello. I am VERY new to Wikipedia, and while looking into an unrelated topic I found this postmortem analysis of the apparent interconnected dysfunctions among government, private sector and even individuals from a person inside FEMA during the Katrina period. I do not know if it meets criteria for inclusion, and would prefer to let an experienced editor judge. Sure hope I'm doing this right.
Augustson, Alan (2008-08-31). Bernstein, Jonathan (ed.). "Katrina: Three Years Later, The Lessons We Haven't Learned". Crisis Manager. Bernstein Crisis Management. ISSN 1528-3836. Retrieved 2017-06-03. CyndiMcIncheese ( talk) 16:49, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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