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As per discussions on the Crime in Australia page and old Crime in Melbourne (now a redirect) pages, this page was created in order to better reflect state crime statistics, police service for the state, etc. It all needs updating and improvement, and more will be added to the Melbourne section over time. See discussions and full history on the Crime in Melbourne redirect and the Crime in Australia pages. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 06:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
As part of the previous proposal and clean-up, it is now proposed that Apex (gang) be merged into this article (as Crime in Melbourne no longer exists), probably under the Melbourne section. But first that article needs a major trim. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 06:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
I've archived the old talk the page as the content is now completley different & has been reorganised Agnte 14:05, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
shouldnt this mention carl williams or tony mokbel? i just noticed it barely mentions organised crime at all.
Hmm something about the CBD, especially around Burke street. 166.205.137.161 ( talk) 04:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
There should definitely be a lot more on the gangland war - there was over 30 murders!
Ethikos ( talk) 13:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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I have deleted everything within the heading "Recent Times", because the entire section was made up. Cyril Washbrook ( talk) 09:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
As have I. -- A Bothan Spy 10:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone keeps reverting it, please keep an eye out as it's pure fiction (speaking as someone who lives in Melbourne) Adonai-aus- ( talk) 00:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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where i the more crime in melbourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.72.124 ( talk) 05:16, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
This article seems to imply that melbourne is pretty safe, but it's way too dangerous at night, there's no go zones all over the place. 58.161.69.53 ( talk) 14:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
The homicide statistic provided in the source material is 167 total homicides for the State of Victoria, for 2014, or 144 for the source here; https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/embridge_cache/emshare/original/public/2018/09/b0/79227e133/Crime%20Statistics%20Victoria%20-%20year%20ending%20June%202018.pdf
This gives a homicide rate of 2.4-2.8 for the state. The CNN article claims a 'murder' rate of 3.1 for the year, but this is clearly incorrect, as murders only account for around half the homicides in the Victorian courts.-- 203.206.164.182 ( talk) 11:56, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
This page has a lot wrong with it and I intend to review it along with all of the other Crime in Australia-related articles... but as a first step proposing to merge Apex (gang), which I don't believe meets WP:N and needs trimming of a lot of the unnecessary detail. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 06:58, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi @ Bacondrum:. I didn't realise that you had started working on this page and I started doing some rearranging a short while ago, which I think got lost, but no matter. I'm busy working on several other projects at the moment, so I'll let you get on with this one. With getting rid of the Apex article, we lost some categories, which may want to be considered/discussed again once work is finished. FYI I'll copy and paste here:African Australian; Anti-immigration politics in Oceania; Crime in Melbourne; Ethnic groups in Australia; Racism in Australia; White nationalism in Australia.
Just one additional comment: I don't think that those individual crimes need to be given such prominence with high-level headings - and directions to the main articles need to be given using the {{main}} template. Crime in Victoria should be an overview, not a list of individual crimes. And I think they were all in Melbourne, so all under the Melbourne heading?
Anyway, I'll come back to it another time, when you've completed your changes. Cheers. Laterthanyouthink ( talk) 01:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Gave it a serious crack, I'm gonna leave it alone for a while now. Bacondrum ( talk) 02:00, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Not sure what the consensus of wikipedia is, but the infobox for crime in victoria is using numbers from CSA - https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-victorian-crime-data/recorded-offences-2 general categories rather than the individual sections
Per Infobox (prior to my edits)
Crime rates* (2019)
Violent crimes
Homicide 3.3
Rape 219.4
Robbery 48.0
The table in the main article correctly titles the sections eg "Homicide and related offences " and "Sexual offences" in reality the 2019 data was (
https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/crime-statistics/latest-victorian-crime-data/recorded-offences-2 - Section T1 Per 100k )
The actual statistical breakdown for 2019 is as follows
A10 Homicide and related offences per 100k - (total 2.8) - no idea where the 3.3 came from
A30 Sexual Offences - Total 203.8 (again i cant see where the 219.4 figure came from)
As such im going to edit the infobox to reflect the A31 stats for Rapes, and in order to be cautious on homicides insert the correct stat for 2019 A10 Homicide and related officers number of 2.8, however it would be worth working out which of those offence subcategories actually fall into the wikipedia definition of "homicide" to create a standard going forward - the main article seems to be /info/en/?search=List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate which would then exclude, manslaughter, attempted murder (which i think should be excluded for sure) and driving causing death (which is more or less vehicular manslaughter in victorian law)
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