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The City of al Quarytayn has the same urban area as city of palmyra, but in map the dot is small as mahin ,if you check on wikimapia actualy you can see its real size. Same thing with Maskanah , its dot size almost looks like a village . Please make the maskana dot same as Deir Hafer , And Al quaryatn same as it was before , somewhat like palmyra dot — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
To see the situation in Raqqa better, might this image need to be added? File:Battle of Raqqa2.svg— SPESH 531 Other 20:56, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Please someone can add Rukban border crossing between Syria and Jordan just south of Tanf. https://www.lorientlejour.com/article/1055238/la-jordanie-repousse-une-attaque-terroriste-a-la-frontiere-syrienne.html According to the french press agency AFP taken from lebanese newspaper L'orient-le-Jour, Jordan border guard foiled an attack from rebels near this border crossing post. Rukba town in Jordan is place of one of the most important refugee camp, and it's a very important place of smuggling between Jordan and Syria, so it seems important to add it on the map. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.171.249.185 ( talk) 18:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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Add " { lat = 35.5616, long = 38.3375, mark = m.gov, marksize = 5, label = " Bir Anbaj", label_size = 0 }, "
This village was captured by the Syrian Army according to the anti-government activist group Raqqa24, as ISIS is attacking Assad forces inside it: https://twitter.com/24Raqqa/status/874741740330266628 TheNavigatrr ( talk) 21:50, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Change the village "Al Ajrawi" and the location "Dahr ar Rujum" to ISIS control. According to the original source Paolowalter used to add the village of Al Ajrawi and Dahr ar Rujum under SAA control, the villages aren't even mentioned by the source at all, or even implied. But furthermore, sources affiliated with Al Masdar News stated that these two sites had been captured by SDF days earlier, then recaptured by ISIS. So the last reliable source claims ISIS controls these sites. As such, ISIS should be listed as the controlling faction until further information is available. TheNavigatrr ( talk) 22:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
The clashes in Maarrat al-Numan are still raging between HTS and the FSA and its allies (e.g. Faylaq al-Sham and Ahrar al-Sham). HTS hasn't fully captured the town yet. We need to keep a close eye on this battle, given the significance of the city. I suggest creating a new article for this battle, something like Third Battle of Maarrat al-Numan if these clashes continue to persist, especially if they intensify or spark a larger inter-rebel conflict. Here is a recent source stating that the clashes are still ongoing: [1]. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 02:32, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
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Change "Saharij al Wahhab" village to SAA control: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isil-flees-south-syrian-army-liberates-territory-west-raqqa-map/ TheNavigatrr ( talk) 14:55, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Remove:
{ lat = 35.659, long = 38.325, mark = m.gov, marksize = 6, label = " Jubb Ghanim", label_size = 0 },
Because this is a duplicate village of
{ lat = 35.658, long = 38.3234, mark = m.gov, marksize = 6, label = " Jubb Ghānim", label_size = 0 },
which has the more correct coordinates. Thanks
TheNavigatrr ( talk) 15:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
According to source which we use as a crediable, ISIS still controlled the village of Hunaydah near the town of Mansurah. link Mehmedsons ( talk) 18:10, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Change "Jubb Ghula" to SDF control: https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/875033804343300099 This is a pro-government source who works for Al Masdar News. If he says SDF took something that we have currently marked as government-held, we should probably trust this. TheNavigatrr ( talk) 00:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map links to seven DAB pages, as shown in this report by one of User:JaGa's tools. As a consequence, User:DPL bot is reporting multiple errors - and of course readers are getting unhelpful (and possibly wrong) information. (For example: there seems to be no Wiki article about any place in Syria called Al Rasheed.) Could someone who knows their way around the template help fix the problem? Narky Blert ( talk) 18:52, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
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Change "Arshunah", "Barghutiyah", and "Salam al Gharbi" villages to ISIS control: https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/870589019809251329 https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/874285195473682433 https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/874552843889516545 TheNavigatrr ( talk) 15:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
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According to Al Masdar News, fighting is going on between residents of Salqin town and Hay'at Tahrir Al Sham. This should be indicated with m.JaN_lcl. https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadist-paradise-idlib-shaken-militant-infighting/ TheNavigatrr ( talk) 15:06, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
I just watched and did nothing but is it go on like this. We cant use obsolete sources for chang status! Here is Niele~enwiki SAA controlled villages noted as SDF controlled:
But source at 7 March 2017 confirmed that these villages controlled SAA. Here this source link And SAA controlled villages Al-Sukhni and Arudah Kabirah were noted as SDF controlled on based the source at 27 February 2017 but at this time they was still controlled ISIS and SAA take back them just at 7 March 2017. link Soon someone can will make changes on based the sources for 2014 or 2015!? Mehmedsons ( talk) 08:47, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
This was reversed by me because you can't use a mapsource to change a large amounnt of villages that where previously individually sourced otherwise. I don't even had to give sources to revert this. They where sourced when they where captured from Daesh by SDF. You changed them from SDF to SAA without any reliable source.-- Niele~enwiki ( talk) 10:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
كما سيطرت قوات النظام على قرى ( خرجيس – رباية – أبو خطر – جناة السلامة – أربعة كبيرة – أربعة صغيرة – محسنة – جديدة – مزرعة – قباب كبير – جنات صغير – رأس العين الحمر – تل أبو جدحة – خان الحمر – تل أسود – شعيب – شيخ أبيض – عنيكبان – تل أبو جدحة )" Mehmedsons ( talk) 13:13, 3 July 2017 (UTC) Abu Kahf was confirmed to be captured by SDF. Alhanuty ( talk) 16:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
@ EkoGraf, Tradedia, Paolowalter, Spesh531, LightandDark2000, Niele~enwiki, and TheNavigatrr:Is it a changes that make against to rules:
We must add at rules that clearly obsolete sources is strictly prohibited for changes at map. Mehmedsons ( talk) 06:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes, if the es are so obsolete, they should not be accepted. You can remove those changes. Paolowalter ( talk) 14:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
What is your standard for local sources, Mehmedsons? On multiple occasions, you cite Al-Masdar (a pro-government outlet in Damascus) as a local source! Here, here, here. In fact, you have made more than 30 edits in the past months, most of them in favor of the government, based on you saying Al-Masdar is a "local source"! If you are going to call Syrian military officers (the source of those reports) and a pro-government Damascus news agency a local source, then surely photographic and video evidence from the actual site of the airstrikes counts at least as much as that, if not more. And the word of activists who are actually from these villages reporting these things should count as much as Al-Masdar. Besides, the Syrian government never claimed to control these villages anyway. Most of them are quite a bit far from the front line. If we can't use these sources for rebel control, then we can't use Al-Masdar for government control, as they're biased and they aren't even local. TheNavigatrr ( talk) 17:56, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
This article links to Al Mushayrifah, Aqil and Judaydah, all of which are DAB pages. Here is the Dablinks tool report. Could someone who knows their way around this topic (and presumably also, that big map) help correct the links, please? Narky Blert ( talk) 12:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
@ Tradedia, Paolowalter, LightandDark2000, Niele~enwiki, and TheNavigatrr: According to opp. source AlDorars the mounain area of Jabal al-Zawiya( Zawiyah Mountains) are under the control of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). link Mehmedsons ( talk) 10:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
According to SOHR and its map,FSA is still not besieged in the Syrian Badiyah http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/412a/8tson0alv92eah0zg.jpg. Alhanuty ( talk) 23:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Mount Ash Shumariya is showing at the wrong location on the map,this needs to be fixed. Alhanuty ( talk) 19:27, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Shuwayhan and bir dahl are under army control not SDF , this is confirmed by Syrian Mod , and most trusted source on tiger forces https://twitter.com/watanisy/status/886127842823680000 https://twitter.com/mod_gov_sy/status/886124908161486848
make them red — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 16:00, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm all for lightening up of the map, but erasure of front-line towns along all the various entities controlling Syrian territory is downright stupid, and subtracts from the objective of having a useful, uncluttered map. 66.108.212.6 ( talk) 21:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
The headline says it all. what is going on? (unsigned)
The module had to be split into two:
All towns, places inside the overview map are included into the detailed map. But from now only towns, places from the overview map in to the module:Middle_East_conflicts_detailed_map. This is because with Middle_East_conflicts_detailed_map broke down because it could not handle the large amount of detailed data.
There is still an error in the Module:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map resulting in all villages beyond line 2700 are not rendered on the map. We are currently working in understanding and solving this, any help to solve this is handy.-- Niele~enwiki ( talk) 16:46, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the fact that the map is now overloaded and the need of a lightest map. But the divison of the map in two modules is completely mudding the map and it's now impossible to correctly follow the actuality. It's now impossible to follow the current SAA offensive in central syria and many important tows are now invisible (Hassakah for exemple).
The best and the most natural solution will be the following:
- to remove dots of closed fronts (ex: northern Latakia) - to remove hills and hamelets of the syrian Badia, central Syria and largely use the icon "rural presence" instead - to remove at least 3/4 the hammlets of the the Afrin region - keep the villages and towns along the highways, the major roads, the rivers, and broadly the most populated areas and use "rural presence" icon in the desert - remove the detailed map from Qamishli and replace it by a mixed control dot (closed front) - remove the Aleppo detailed map and replace it with a big red dot and a smaller yellow dot for sheikh Maqsoud
I'd like to do that job myself but I don't know how this map is working and I'm unable to do a single edit on the map. So I want to told to the editors that its very important to do that job to allow the broad people to follow the actuality with a single glance which is impossible on the current map. If the map stay like that I and many people will be forced to stop following this map, which it's a pity because it was the most accurate and dynamic map of the conflict. Thanks everyone.
The current Raqqa inset map has Arabic labels to indicate the different parts of the city. File:Battle_of_Raqqa2.svg has the English labels. The current Raqqa map also suggests in its description to use File:Battle_of_Raqqa2.svg for the template. Redditor555 ( talk) 05:45, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
alot of small towns have been removed can it be restored. Alhanuty ( talk) 23:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Fixed. Paolowalter ( talk) 22:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
there is an error in the template. Alhanuty ( talk) 03:56, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
All of the "template:cite" references list no sources and should be removed, along with the unverifiable text. Or of course replaced with real sources. Doug Weller talk 18:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Even on a wide screen, this is causing left to right scrolling required, zooming sufficiently to see the map makes the text unreadable. Can this be scaled down on the article display? — xaosflux Talk 13:38, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Given all the above, we should not transclude the overview map into the article. The tables of the article are already huge. When you add to them the map, the combination becomes unmanageable for many of our users and leads to the crashing User:霎起林野间 above is talking about. I have therefore removed the map from the article and replaced it with a link to the template. Tradedia talk 07:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Qaryatayn is contested between ISIS and the SAA. Sources: https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/913855782608883712 https://twitter.com/SyrianGuy8/status/913852392579506176 https://twitter.com/geopolitiquee/status/913851810066190342 Thumboy ( talk) 23:10, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
With Turkish-backed groups now entering Idlib, I think it's time we separate the depiction of the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army from other rebel groups on this map, due to the clear differences in goals and nature of the groups. Compare the situation with al-Nusra, which is similarly separated from other rebel groups on this map. There is a "Turkey" color in Module:Middle East conflicts map marks, which could be used for the Turkish-backed militias. Chessrat ( talk, contributions) 09:58, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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Do you think a new colour should be added for Turkish backed rebels? Since part of the Northern Aleppo and Idlib Provinces are controled by Turkish backed rebels with a different agenda that the rest of the FSA. Mr.User200 ( talk) 12:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, the legend below the map does not specify that dark green signifies the Turkish army (it only mentions red, light green, yellow, grey and black). Can somebody please add that? I'm not sure how to do it myself. Esn ( talk) 08:20, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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Hello dear editors,
I've been quite inactive during the last time, but I think there is a topic that needs to be discussed. I know that there was a discussion before about it, but the situation has changed, especially since the intervention in northern Idlib.
The Template should show the areas occupied by Turkish military in an own colour.
Why do I think that? The threat of IS in the Shehba plain north of Aleppo has long disappeared. The area is more and more included into the Turkish system. The aim of the groups there is no longer the liberation of Syria, it's meant to become a Turkish protectorate. The Turkish intervention in Idlib shows even more clear, that the alliance is not against Assad but against the SDF. This aims are different to other rebel groups in Idlib, which have - while opposing SDF as well - fighting Assad and his army as first priority. On the SVG-map, you can already see the area controlled by Turkey and allied militias, but I will change it back to green until we have a consent here.
Regards,-- Ermanarich ( talk) 10:25, 24 November 2017 (UTC).
@ Mehmedsons: Haha, I understand you got confused by my edit on the Link of Suran, Hama, however it was correct and I reverted your revert of my edit. The thing is that someone (not me) put {{anchor|Sawran, Aleppo Governorate}} at the line describing the town “Suran” on the article Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War. So for the link of Suran to work, we need to refer to exactly the words in {{anchor|Sawran, Aleppo Governorate}}. The words do not matter as long as they are the same in the {{anchor}} and in the link =. So for example, I changed both for “Suran” town to “The Great Mehmedsons”:
In this edit I change {{anchor|Sawran, Aleppo Governorate}} into {{anchor|The Great Mehmedsons}}.
In my revert of your edit on the map I changed
link= "Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War#Suran, Hama Governorate"
into
link= "Cities and towns during the Syrian Civil War#The Great Mehmedsons"
You can verify that the link works by clicking on “Suran” town on our map. Let me know if you have any questions. Tradedia talk 07:52, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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Line 6042 {lat= 33.3078, long= 35.857, mark= m.JaN_hill, marksize= 7, label= " Tal Bardayah", label_size= 0},
Needs to be changed from m.JaN_hill to m.gov_hill, due to the fact that this is part of the former Beit Jinn pocket, and the rest of the Beit Jinn area is already marked red. TheMapLurker ( talk) 19:22, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
As one of the Sochi agreements is Syrian army permitted to advance till the railway in Idlib, could anybody please add the Syrian railway into the map? Ghadamgahy ( talk) 14:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map does not work can you help solve the problem! Only writes "#invoke:Location map/multi". Mehmedsons ( talk) 20:26, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
What happened to the map. Alhanuty ( talk) 18:49, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Too many villages, towns and links caused the map to collapse. AngryCyrenaican ( talk) 07:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Since the map crashed, should some of the small points away from the front line be removed? For example Northern Latakia has a lot of really small points that are hard to even hover over. Some of the line of border garrisons could probably also be removed, maybe every other one, leaving the ones farther north ones. There are other areas that also have a lot of points that are unlikely to change anytime soon as well. I understand that some people feel all of the points should stay, but if the map keeps crashing, having all of the points doesn't help, especially if new points can't be added. Emk9 ( talk) 20:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Now that SAA enjoys total control over Aleppo City (apart from Zahraa District), can we just have a large red dot for Aleppo and do away with the minimap? It seems unnecessary to have a minimap for a city that one faction has 99% control over - Hasakah minimap was removed for this reason. Yes, it would create issues with the road map - speaking of the road map, there is a box to the east of Aleppo that isn't transparent like the rest of the image file, but I'm sure it was added to reduce the visible size of the Aleppo minimap - since some roads would terminate just before reaching the red dot, but surely someone could easily extend the roads into the blank box where Aleppo is.
And while we're at it, can we do away with Qamishli minimap? Nothing happens there except for the occasional bombing. It seems redundant to have a minimap for a city where the last conflict was back in 2016. Of course, there would have to be more dots added in for SAA control, but not many would have to be added. If there is a conflict in Qamishli pocket in the future, the minimap could simply be added back. TheMapLurker ( talk) 14:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
It shows in the map template that Tal Rifaat is back under the control of the assad regime, but I'm not seeing this being reported anywhere, is there a source for it? 70.56.178.47 ( talk) 17:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Tall rifaat is under full goverment control,together with the surronding area . Make it full red Video proof from today , from state televison shows army's full control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlGFtE6aOD0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 12:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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{lat= 36.428, long= 37.114, mark= m.gov, marksize=6, label= " Kafr Naseh", link= "Kafr Naseh, Tell Rifaat", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.526, long= 37.056, mark= m.gov, marksize=5, label= " Menagh", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.4147, long= 37.0708, mark= m.gov, marksize=7, label= " Kafr Naya hill", label_size=0}, {lat= 36.428, long= 37.114, mark= m.gov, marksize=6, label= " Kafr Naseh", link= "Kafr Naseh, Tell Rifaat", label_size= 0},
Govermet forces in full controll of the Tell Rifaat and sorounding areas . Video proof by state televison from 28.03.2018 , make the dots full red .
Additional sources : — Preceding
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Trusted Opposition source :
https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/978955670929268741
Turkish Source :
https://twitter.com/OperationAfrin/status/979397321938137089
Anhar al sham leader :
https://twitter.com/WyvernReports/status/978638131497984002
Hezbollah oficial page :
https://twitter.com/C_Military1/status/977526749121667073
Photo proofs . video proofs , statements from both hezbollah and opposition , what do you need more ? ill bring it.
Just in , Russian defence ministry statemend 30.03.2018 , published the map of syria , and whole Tall rifaat area under goverment control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZr4PKBrxrg , map on 7.12 second .
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlGFtE6aOD0 - proof AlexanderM1 ( talk) 14:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Looks like there's some red points in the north, in territory controlled by Turkey/TFSA and Rojava. Specifically two in northern Afrin, one just east of Azaz, another near Al-Rai, three in a bunch south of Jarabulus, one roughly halfway between those and Kobani, and one just south of Suluk. None of them have labels or links. Are these intentional, or mistakes? ansh 666 01:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
In the overview template, there are a number of localities, such as al-Mushrifah, with a bunch of non-breakable spaces (nbsp) in the link text, which makes the links look strange. Was this intentional? If so, what is the purpose? — Ynhockey ( Talk) 20:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Why is Afrin marked half grey? HTS is certainly not in Afrin, and infighting by Ahrar al Sharqiyya certainly does not justify creating a wholly new colour. Afrin answers to the Syrian Interim Government and the National Army, with its different factions. As in Idlib we consider both JTS and the NLF to be green coloured despite their differences, there's no reason to add a new colour to Afrin. I hope to get a decent discussion out of this, because Afrin is controlled by the same factions that control Jarablus and al Bab, and they are depicted as fully green.
To summarize;
1. The grey colour is marked as HTS, and doesn't include Ahrar al Sharqiyya.
2. Ahrar al Sharqiyya are part of Euphrates Shield since 2016 and nobody has marked them as grey thus far.
3. The factional diversity in Afrin reflects the same diversity in Idlib and Jarablus, and does not (*yet*) reveal a larger alignment the way HTS and its Salvation Government do in Idlib.
I motion that all of Afrin is restored to green in the interests of accuracy and consistency. NightShadeAEB ( talk) 20:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
I just realized the colour is dark green rather than grey, to indicate Turkish troops. However, this still poses a consistency problem, since Turkish troops are present across Euphrates Shield areas as well. Either we remove the dark green completely, make both ES and OB half lime half dark green, or instead just make all OB and ES into fully dark green, with dark green defined as "shared opposition and Turkish control". This would simplify things a lot and would look less ugly on the map. That said, we have no separate colours for Hezbollah, Iran or Russia on the SAA side, and Turkish troops are deploying to Idlib as well anyways. Plus Tanf is under the control of the US as much as FSA and they don't have a separate colour. NightShadeAEB ( talk) 19:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
WP-article says Al-Baghuz Fawqani is under control of SDF now, but on the map it's still black. -- 2A02:908:C31:B780:9980:15E:DF87:7906 ( talk) 15:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Al dahl Oilfield , Hanadie oilfield under goverment control , confirmed by syrian mod and Reporter Mig29
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/889222627222540289
make red
- Second Dahla https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/889689093998825473 Syrian army inside it photo proof
Third Ukayrshah https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/889683714988531712 Photo proof , + message from the village
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/889669373979439104
Fourth the Agreement Signed Agreement for #SDF to HAND OVER Ukairshy/Dahlah/Muqla/Zawr Shammar/ Al-Sabkhah make those Red https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/889682579934326785— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 12:01, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
And in case you say fake , here is geolocation proof , of photos inside ukayrshah https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/889794271880065025— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderM1 ( talk • contribs) 12:05, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Can someone please add Islamic State Rural Presence in Northeast al Suwayda Governorate in the provincial border whit Rif Dimashq? Maybe North of Qaa al Banat. Even Al Masdar has admitted ( here and here for example) that IS still has a foothold in this region and if no one is going to precisely put the villages and hills that IS controls at least put the rural presence icon until the area is declared clear from IS units. Valewonca ( talk) 13:07, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Who is keeping the detailed map up-to-date? I noticed yesterday that Al-Baghuz Fawqani is on the map as ISIL possession, while the linked Wiki article states that ISIL was defeated there in last May. -- Corriebertus ( talk) 09:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I noticed today that the Syrian Civil War detailed map appears to have crashed once again. Even after splitting the map into 2 separate modules, the larger one has exceeded the size limit again. Please reduce the size of the detailed map module to under 650,000 bytes; otherwise, no one will be able to view the map on Wikipedia. The Afrin District would be a good place to start the cleanup. LightandDark2000 ( talk) 09:35, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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There are two Tulul Khalif heights, that someone has placed one on other nearly at the same coordinates, one is described as an under goverment control, another as an under opposition control. We know that Daraa Governorate is under fully government control, so that possible vandalism should be deleted (leave only one Tulul Khalif, another mark should be deleted). MarcusTraianus ( talk) 18:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I previously noted this here earlier this year - there are some random red dots, mostly in the north of the map. There are about 8 in the detailed map and 2 in the overview map. I noticed on the overview map that they seem to be associated with two specific icons, and removing those lines seem to remove the red marks as well:
{lat= 36.7848, long= 37.959, mark= m.opp_oil, marksize=8, label= "[[Oil Refinery]]", label_size=0}, {lat= 36.787, long= 37.976, mark= m.opp_oil, marksize=8, label= "[[Oil Refinery]]", label_size=0},
However, there doesn't seem to be anything off with those lines (at least compared to the other lines directly above/below it), and Module:Middle East conflicts map marks doesn't seem to have any sort of answer either. Presumably, the ones on the detailed map are caused by the same issue, but those seem to appear under normal city marks, both rebel and SDF. I don't know if there are more in the government-controlled areas of the map, since those are mostly red already, and I haven't seen this on any of the other module maps ( Libya, Iraq, Yemen, etc.). Does anyone know what's going on here? ansh 666 21:20, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Plastikspork and Tradedia: Here are some screenshots. The lines affected appear to be:
(1, 3, 4, 7, and 8, respectively, on the detailed module)
{lat= 36.7017, long= 36.7798, mark= m.opp, marksize=4, label= "[[Kere]]", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.618, long= 37.377, mark= m.opp, marksize=5, label= "[[Tathumus]]", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.776, long= 37.95, mark= m.opp, marksize=5, label= "[[Tal Shair]]", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.895, long= 38.196, mark= m.SDF, marksize=5, label= "[[Buban]]", label_size= 0}, {lat= 36.57,long= 39.155, mark= m.SDF, marksize=6, label= "[[Arbed]]", label_size= 0},
(5 and 6, on the overview module)
{lat= 36.7848, long= 37.959, mark= m.opp_oil, marksize=8, label= "[[Oil Refinery]]", label_size=0}, {lat= 36.787, long= 37.976, mark= m.opp_oil, marksize=8, label= "[[Oil Refinery]]", label_size=0},
I see nothing whatsoever that is remarkable about these lines. Another thing possibly of note is that the red marks load in at the very end, once everything else is done. ansh 666 00:33, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey guys. What's Wikipedia's opinion on changing Aleppo from a minimap to a big red dot? I think this would look much better. I mean, the city is 100% controlled by the Syrian government, it's just a few urban areas on the outskirts that aren't, so it makes sense tbqh. Nate Hooper ( talk) 03:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
There's currently a disconnect in the anchoring: TOC points to "governate" while the entries are "Governate". Please decide which one you plan to use. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 20:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
can we change the color of the areas under SNA and Turkish Army control to Dark Red.In order to differentiate between them and NLF in Idlib. Alhanuty ( talk) 22:09, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
@Alhanuty Seems it's a good idea to differentiate between of the areas under SNA/TSK control and NLF in Idlib. But how we can do it? Or maybe we use dark green to areas under SNA/TSK control! Mehmedsons ( talk) 19:32, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
I would say that any shade of red should be avoided for the Turkish Army and Turkish-backed rebel held territory, because this would be too readily confused with the Syrian government held territory. Some other color would be fine though, but of course not any shade of yellow/gold either, since that's the color for the Kurdish/SDF held areas. - 2003:CA:871F:F980:9011:EBAF:9228:D49B ( talk) 22:18, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
then brown should be the ideal color,then. Alhanuty ( talk) 18:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC) I have made it on wikimedia. Alhanuty ( talk) 18:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Location_dot_Maroon(1).svg.
@Alhanuty Agree . Mehmedsons ( talk) 20:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Then lets begin with changing the color. Alhanuty ( talk) 15:28, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
I tried but it didn't work out peace. Maybe someone can assist me. Mehmedsons ( talk) 20:20, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
@Alhanuty Maybe we need use such icon for areas under SNA and Turkish Army control. At least as a temporary measure. In order to differentiate between TSK/NSA and NLF/some other rebel factions at Idlib area. The current icon is misleading. Mehmedsons ( talk) 15:28, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Why not a cyan or light blue? cyan seems to be common for Turkey in these types of maps outside of Wikipedia example 1 2 3 plus brown and red are too similar, especially for people with color blindness. 70.59.226.151 ( talk) 04:14, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
File is growing too big again. I cannot add new places. If there are no objections, I'll try to remove a few hills or hamlets far from the front line making space for more important places. Paolowalter ( talk) 13:38, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
Well, not exactly new, but I haven't edited a map like this before. Around line 750 (I think), we have:
lat= 35.638, long= 36.739, mark= m.gov, marksize=8, label= " Tell Mannas", link= "Tell Mannas", label_size=0 },
Now, according to .syriahr.com, Tell Mannas was captured by HTS. So, "good" I think to myself, I'll change "m.gov" to "m.JaN" in that line of code. But there were all these warnings about the fact that I need to be careful editing this and I need to change a relevant document or something. Basically, I was just worried that I might destroy the whole map or do something which would cause strife. So, I'm just asking for help; my question is this: if you want to change a town from one side to another and you obviously have a source for it, is it just a simple matter of changing the letters after the "m."? Thanks guys Nate Hooper ( talk) 12:28, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Well, perhaps "error" is not the right word, but there appears to be archival remnants of the Aleppo minimap stretching East of al-Safira and moving north of that lake. I'm not sure how to fix this. Nate Hooper ( talk) 02:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Aleppo seems to be fully captured by SAA in its entirety including its surroundings https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-of-aleppo-city-ends-in-syrian-army-victory-after-7-years-of-fighting/ It is time to replace it with a large red dot like Damascus. Dows anybodu oppose? Paolowalter ( talk) 16:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Since Aleppo is being consolidated, should the rest of the map be clean-up any? Some areas like Latakia have so many points that it's difficult for me to even hover over them to see the name. Potential areas I've seen would be the area east of Aleppo controlled by SAA, back lines in Latakia, the area east and west of Homs, and the area of Qunietra, Daraa, Rif Dimashq. Emk9 ( talk) 22:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Hey guys, I have a map which was made by a friend, of the large roads in Syria. Something like this will be needed in the Aleppo city region to paste over the minimap if you guys decide to do that. So yeah, I'll just leave a link to it, so you guys can use it if you want to. https://imgur.com/a/WQgItsK Nate Hooper ( talk) 00:23, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I fully agree on both points. Since Aleppo and its immediate surroundings are now fully under government control, it'd make sense to just have one big red dot, like Damascus, rather than an inset map.
Also, with the larger map more broadly, I agree that a lot of the little red dots (for small villages, hilltops, etc.) that are now far from any active front-line, could be eliminated in order for the map to load faster. So much detail isn't needed for areas far from the front-lines, so long as it's clear that the larger area is under government control. - 2003:CA:874E:47C3:A5F6:E5DE:18F4:C5A0 ( talk) 11:42, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
On a side note, what is the attitude towards turning Qamishli (the last minimap) into a dot too? The dot's size would not reach the borders of the conflict, so it makes sense. Don't you all think it will be nice and aesthetically pleasing to have no more minimaps? Eh? Nate Hooper ( talk) 02:45, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
At the moment we have at least two Al-Salihiyahs, one "lat= 35.902, long= 36.777, mark= m.JaN" and one "lat= 35.902, long= 36.776, mark= m.gov", that is too close to be separate villages. Also, I guess the link should be Al-Salihiyah, Hama, not Al-Salihiyah which is in Damascus. -- 85.148.244.121 ( talk) 07:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
according to this source https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1236402537793761281 assads forces took two villages, while the other one is not on this map, maarat muqwas is still shown as controlled by (mixed) rebelforces Norschweden ( talk) 20:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
The icons marked Shahra Krak & Shuweyhan (remove "& Shuweyhan"), Ma'raduh Tahtani, Wasitah Maksur, Abdo and At Tinah are inaccurate as the listed settlements are under TFSA/SNA control. The following links show trench lines to the north and south of the M4 highway. Not to be POV-pushing, but anything that's north of the SNA trench line should be marked under SNA control and anything south of SDF trench line should be marked under SDF control - with everything in between assumed to be a no-man's land unless otherwise specified. https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2&lat=36.44814433918332&lng=38.807573318481445&zoom=14&preset=1-NATURAL-COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=20&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2020-06-01%7C2020-12-18&atmFilter=&showDates=false <---- This link shows the SNA trenches in the area with Tinah (centered) behind them. And the Sharakrak area, you can clearly see trenches and fortified positions to the south of M4 which is undeniably SDF ----> https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2&lat=36.417690946030596&lng=38.97391319274902&zoom=14&preset=1-NATURAL-COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=20&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2020-06-01%7C2020-12-18&atmFilter=&showDates=false , also confirmed by wikimapia https://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.425426&lon=38.977003&z=14 TheMapLurker ( talk) 07:06, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Please fix the format of this article's preamble (before "Syria is subdivided in a hierarchical manner into..."). It currently displays badly and it is not clear where the lead begins. Thanks. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 13:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
An RFC has been opened on the subject of whether or not a live military situation map on the war in Afghanistan should be included on Wikipedia. Judging on the discussion so far this could affect this Template later on. The RFC can be seen here. Wowzers122 ( talk) 03:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Could someone please remove the extended-confirmed protection from this module, or at least downgrade it? I want to edit it, and the XC protection was put in over 4 years ago. I inquired about what to do, and it was suggested that I should find someone to remove the protection. CircularToucan ( talk) 22:19, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Yahoo News is reporting this is one of the only towns in Syria where Turkish backed rebels and government forces co-exist peacefully. The rebels are in the north and the government in the south. So this city should be half green/half red. Hopefully more peace deals can be reached so no more Syrians have to die.
Here is the article: https://news.yahoo.com/syria-frontline-town-residents-stuck-022726126.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.147.194.106 ( talk) 05:43, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Tafas recently had clashes with rebel insurgents and government forces, the SAA was unable to recapture the city after hours of battles resulting in 11 SAA soldiers dead. [1] The town now belongs to rebel insurgents, so do you think I should change the detailed map to reflect that.
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The result of the move request was: page Moved to Control of cities during the Syrian civil war.( non-admin closure) signed, 511KeV (talk) 02:46, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war →
Control of cities during the Syrian civil war – Consensus was recently gathered for the same move at
Control of cities during the Russo-Ukrainian War (see
here); no reason why that shouldn't apply here. Proposed title is more descriptive.
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